[Official] Yiheng Wang DNF 3.272 3×3 single

[Spencer131]

At 11:30, Matty did the same thing as Yiheng, and the solve was not penalized on his profile

technically these should be DNFed, but the wca doesn't have time to review every single solve

 

[abunickabhi]

I think the solve should not be a DNF, lets see

 

[stoic]

It's harsh, and I can see the merit in the argument for frame-by-frame, but it's a clear breach of the regulations.
In the other recent discussions in the 0.78 threads about using video, every argument is around video clearing up whether or not a regulation has been broken.
The judge didn't even look at the cube before Yiheng lifted it up and turned it so it's a DNF all day long for me. (Which might also be an argument for better judging, but there you go.)

And another thing: I remember hearing Feliks talking about how he used to do specific competition-style practice. Long pauses between solves, simulating background noise and so on. It seems to me that Yiheng's much-vaunted coaches have really dropped the ball on this one.

 

[precompsubwr]

sam myung 3.27 flashbacks...


Edit: same exact time too lmao

 

[BVCuber13]

sam myung 3.27 flashbacks...
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please elaborate, I'm very confused lmao

 

[LukasCubes]

Regulations A6e and A6e1:

A6e) After stopping the timer, the competitor must not touch, apply a move, or make any change in alignment to the puzzle, until the judge has inspected the puzzle.

A6e1) Penalty for applying a move to the puzzle after stopping the timer: disqualification of the attempt (DNF)

just replying to the rules here

Judge didnt inspect the cube, no paper was signed, yiheng waited probably 3-5 seconds (not 10) to grab the cube after celebrating. DNF. I know he celebrated and probably grabbed the wrong cube on accident, but it's still a DNF. Nobody can change that.

 

[FatrockCubes]

I'm torn on this one. There's the regulations which obviously should be upheld, but there's alos plenty of solves on film that could be DNFed for the same reason. I think it really comes down to the fact that after the communities' response to the WCA Board upholding his 2x2 WR, there is a closer eye on YiHeng.

That being said, it is what it is. It's just one of those things where you live and learn. Just have to be more careful and patient next time I suppose.

 

[precompsubwr]

please elaborate, I'm very confused lmao

In mid 2018 sam myung got a misscramble (3x3) and got a 3.27, kinda went under the radar
There was no video of the solve or a reconstruction but there was a reaction video

He is also the same guy to film brandon lin's wr 9.90 squan avg

 

[bldcuber314]

I think a big issue here is that the regulations require an 'inspection' by the judge. The thing is, judges don't really do that. You wouldn't normally see judges at comps picking up the cube, turning it around and making sure every side is solved. It didn't look like the judge thoroughly inspected the cube because he probably wouldn't have anyway, even if Yiheng hadn't done the moves.

 

[Spencer131]

I think a big issue here is that the regulations require an 'inspection' by the judge. The thing is, judges don't really do that. You wouldn't normally see judges at comps picking up the cube, turning it around and making sure every side is solved. It didn't look like the judge thoroughly inspected the cube because he probably wouldn't have anyway, even if Yiheng hadn't done the moves.

for big cubes judges do and should pick up the cube because centers can be swapped.

generally I agree though. the regulation could be clarified as to what "inspected" means

 

[GeographicalCuber]

I think a big issue here is that the regulations require an 'inspection' by the judge. The thing is, judges don't really do that. You wouldn't normally see judges at comps picking up the cube, turning it around and making sure every side is solved. It didn't look like the judge thoroughly inspected the cube because he probably wouldn't have anyway, even if Yiheng hadn't done the moves.

I think it would make more sense to change the regulation to

"After stopping the timer, the competitor must not touch, apply a move, or make any change in alignment to the puzzle, until both the judge and competitor have signed the scorcard."

to avoid confusion about the term "inspected" and provide a more enforceable rule