Petrus Steps Timed

[thelurch1986]

I wasn't sure if this belonged in another forum category so I put it here just in case. I was getting crappy times today and figured I would just time my Petrus steps separately and see what they looked like. I only gave the 2x2x2 step an inspection as that is how it would be during a normal solve. Also I took a mean of 5 solves for each step and rounded it UP to the nearest 0.5s due to inaccuracies/luckiness/conservatism.

2x2x2 with inspection = 2.5 seconds
2x2x3 expansion = 6.5 seconds
bad edges = 3.5 seconds
full step 4 = 5.5 seconds
last layer = 8.0 seconds

This gives me an 18 second average F2L and obviously an 8 second average LL for a total of a 26 second Petrus average.

I really like Petrus method and actually when I picked up the cube for the first time and looked online for methods I chose Petrus for my first method. That was a bad mistake as this is definitely not an easy method to learn as a first method and I switched back to LBL before eventually converting back to Petrus.

 

[iSpinz]

When I started cubing I picked the Petrus method too, but I switched to Fridrich after I realized that I was just doing 1/2 f2l. :fp

EDIT: I just remembered. I actually was doing block-building pretty good, but was averaging 1:30 so I decided to use Fridrich instead. I regret that....

 

[piemaster]

Your block building and bad edges are beast. Unfortunately, I was a whiz at fridrich, so I pwn you in the F2L and LL.

F2L-sub 4 seconds
LL-sub 6 seconds.

Something is wrong with your LL. Sub 4 your PLL's, Sub 2 for OLL
And look-ahead on F2L.

 

[piemaster]

When I started cubing I picked the Petrus method too, but I switched to Fridrich after I realized that I was just doing 1/2 f2l. :fp

EDIT: I just remembered. I actually was doing block-building pretty good, but was averaging 1:30 so I decided to use Fridrich instead. I regret that....

Never too late to change you know. I've made 3 changes.

Fridrich
Roux
Back to Fridrich
Petrus

I switched to Petrus because it was interesting, unlike the bland fridrich.

 

[miniGOINGS]

Quick Petrus question:

If you create the 2x2x2 at DBL, would it be more effective to expend to a 2x2x3 at DBR? This way, wouldn't fixing bad edges be faster and require no cube rotations?

 

[waffle=ijm]

I don't know about you but I fix bad edges with the 2x2x3 block on the left...when I use Petrus...

 

[JLarsen]

Your block building and bad edges are beast. Unfortunately, I was a whiz at fridrich, so I pwn you in the F2L and LL.

F2L-sub 14 seconds
LL-sub 6 seconds.

Something is wrong with your LL. Sub 4 your PLL's, Sub 2 for OLL
And look-ahead on F2L.

Unless your LL is longer than your F2L, and you're sub 10....

 

[thelurch1986]

Quick Petrus question:

If you create the 2x2x2 at DBL, would it be more effective to expend to a 2x2x3 at DBR? This way, wouldn't fixing bad edges be faster and require no cube rotations?

It would be one less cube rotation for bad edges but I personally think the odd expansion direction and lack of vision to that side would hurt you more than the 1 less rotation for EO.. just my opinion.

 

[miniGOINGS]

I don't know about you but I fix bad edges with the 2x2x3 block on the left...when I use Petrus...

Wouldn't it require a lot of F and B moves though?

 

[JLarsen]

Quick Petrus question:

If you create the 2x2x2 at DBL, would it be more effective to expend to a 2x2x3 at DBR? This way, wouldn't fixing bad edges be faster and require no cube rotations?

It would be one less cube rotation for bad edges but I personally think the odd expansion direction and lack of vision to that side would hurt you more than the 1 less rotation for EO.. just my opinion.

Sure, but sometimes the most efficient solution is awkward from one angle. I freely rotate the cube around any spot, any angle, I never build a block "at DBL" I just look for an efficient solution, and then I execute it in a finger friendly manner.

 

[thelurch1986]

I don't know about you but I fix bad edges with the 2x2x3 block on the left...when I use Petrus...

Wouldn't it require a lot of F and B moves though?

Yes, I put 2x2x3 block at DB location and solve bad edges with my free slices at U and F so my moves are R U L and R' U' L'

 

[waffle=ijm]

I don't know about you but I fix bad edges with the 2x2x3 block on the left...when I use Petrus...

Wouldn't it require a lot of F and B moves though?

Not really an issue...I do a hell of a lot more RU than FB...
besides...I'm a roux user.

 

[miniGOINGS]

Quick Petrus question:

If you create the 2x2x2 at DBL, would it be more effective to expend to a 2x2x3 at DBR? This way, wouldn't fixing bad edges be faster and require no cube rotations?

It would be one less cube rotation for bad edges but I personally think the odd expansion direction and lack of vision to that side would hurt you more than the 1 less rotation for EO.. just my opinion.

Sure, but sometimes the most efficient solution is awkward from one angle. I freely rotate the cube around any spot, any angle, I never build a block "at DBL" I just look for an efficient solution, and then I execute it in a finger friendly manner.

Oh, ok, I'm happy with that answer.

 

[piemaster]

Your block building and bad edges are beast. Unfortunately, I was a whiz at fridrich, so I pwn you in the F2L and LL.

F2L-sub 14 seconds
LL-sub 6 seconds.

Something is wrong with your LL. Sub 4 your PLL's, Sub 2 for OLL
And look-ahead on F2L.

Unless your LL is longer than your F2L, and you're sub 10....

I was referring to step 4.

 

[JLarsen]

Your block building and bad edges are beast. Unfortunately, I was a whiz at fridrich, so I pwn you in the F2L and LL.

F2L-sub 14 seconds
LL-sub 6 seconds.

Something is wrong with your LL. Sub 4 your PLL's, Sub 2 for OLL
And look-ahead on F2L.

Unless your LL is longer than your F2L, and you're sub 10....

I was referring to step 4.

Well anyway his LL is less than half the time of his f2l? I average say 16, 5 sec LL, 11 sec F2L, that's like really really close to the proportion he has. Actually, the reason you think that, is because your F2L is really bad.

 

[piemaster]

By the way, my blocks fail. Help?

 

[iSpinz]

I will now attempt a Petrus solve....

Hmmm..... I just got 49.85 I guess Im not that bad at petrus anyway. Or It might be the easy 2x2?

By the way, my blocks fail. Help?

How would you plan out your 2x2 on this scramble?

F' U L' B' U F2 D' U2 F L U2 L' F L2 U R' D2 F2 L2 B U' F' L2 B' L

 

[waffle=ijm]

By the way, my blocks fail. Help?

Roux? Heise?

I know you practiced Roux but do some Heise block building to improve your blocks.

 

[JLarsen]

I will now attempt a Petrus solve....

Hmmm..... I just got 49.85 I guess Im not that bad at petrus anyway. Or It might be the easy 2x2?

By the way, my blocks fail. Help?

How would you plan out your 2x2 on this scramble?

F' U L' B' U F2 D' U2 F L U2 L' F L2 U R' D2 F2 L2 B U' F' L2 B' L

What a crap scramble. I glanced at it for a sec and got this; U' F2 R F R2 F'. I just used the first thing I saw....I'm tired.

 

[iSpinz]

I will now attempt a Petrus solve....

Hmmm..... I just got 49.85 I guess Im not that bad at petrus anyway. Or It might be the easy 2x2?

By the way, my blocks fail. Help?

How would you plan out your 2x2 on this scramble?

F' U L' B' U F2 D' U2 F L U2 L' F L2 U R' D2 F2 L2 B U' F' L2 B' L

What a crap scramble. I glanced at it for a sec and got this; U' F2 R F R2 F'. I just used the first thing I saw....I'm tired.

:fp You should have double checked...