Imsoosm's Progression Thread - learning eg1

[Imsoosm]

I'm having trouble recognizing E perms. Whenever the edges aren't matching with their corresponding centers, I either hesitate for 1-1.5 seconds or do a U move and stare at the case for 1.5 seconds before I see which face I should do it on. I've tried hesitating less, but if I do that, 50% of the time I would do it on the wrong face and get an H perm.
Does anyone have any tips for this?

 

[Abram Grimsley]

I'm having trouble recognizing E perms. Whenever the edges aren't matching with their corresponding centers, I either hesitate for 1-1.5 seconds or do a U move and stare at the case for 1.5 seconds before I see which face I should do it on. I've tried hesitating less, but if I do that, 50% of the time I would do it on the wrong face and get an H perm.
Does anyone have any tips for this?

I also had a problem with this. How I dealt with it was, I looked at the color of the edge in front of me, if the color to the side of the corner is the same as the edge, don't do the E-perm; because it will result in an h-pern. Instead, do a U move (in either direction; left or right) then do the E-perm; and that will solve the cube. Remember, for the E-perm, make sure that the corners touching the edge in front of you, have the opposite color of the edge in front of you. If this doesn't help or make sense, tell me and I'll make a video about it for you.
Hope this helps.

 

[Imsoosm]

I also had a problem with this. How I dealt with it was, I looked at the color of the edge in front of me, if the color to the side of the corner is the same as the edge, don't do the E-perm; because it will result in an h-pern. Instead, do a U move (in either direction; left or right) then do the E-perm; and that will solve the cube. Remember, for the E-perm, make sure that the corners touching the edge in front of you, have the opposite color of the edge in front of you. If this doesn't help or make sense, tell me and I'll make a video about it for you.
Hope this helps.

Thanks!!! This helped me a lot
I need to practice recog for this, hopefully it'll get faster in my solves.

 

[Imsoosm]

I guess I can now do sub-50 moves on every scramble. (without using NISS or any of those fancy techniques lol)

 

[Abram Grimsley]

Thanks!!! This helped me a lot
I need to practice recog for this, hopefully it'll get faster in my solves.

No problem. Any time.

 

[IsThatA4x4]

I'm having trouble recognizing E perms. Whenever the edges aren't matching with their corresponding centers, I either hesitate for 1-1.5 seconds or do a U move and stare at the case for 1.5 seconds before I see which face I should do it on. I've tried hesitating less, but if I do that, 50% of the time I would do it on the wrong face and get an H perm.
Does anyone have any tips for this?

Another way you can recognise this, which is basically the same (kind of) is looking at the pattern of 3 alternating colours created around the UFR corner.
If this pattern goes vertically (along the R face), you are at the correct angle, if it goes horizontally (along the F face), you are at the wrong angle.

 

[Imsoosm]

So. Close.
Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-05
avg of 12: 10.291

Time List:
1. 9.267 D' B2 L2 B2 D' U' R2 U L2 B2 L' R' U' B' R2 D2 L' B L R
2. 9.682 R B' L2 U2 B2 D2 F2 U2 L R2 D2 L' B2 U R F' L2 B' U2 L
3. (12.250) U' L U B' R B2 U2 D' B L2 D L2 D F2 U B2 D2 R2
4. (8.059) U2 L2 F2 U2 L2 B2 U L2 U R2 U' B2 F' U' R' D U F2 D' B R
5. 9.905 F' L' F2 L2 U B2 D2 L2 D B2 D2 B2 R2 F' U L2 R D2 L2 U2
6. 11.080 R2 B2 U2 B2 D L2 B2 D R2 B2 D' F2 R' F D2 L B R2 B' F' U
7. 8.958 F2 L F R2 U B' D L' F2 U D2 L2 B2 U' B2 U R2 F2 D
8. 11.816 D2 U2 B' L2 B2 D2 L2 D2 L2 B' F2 D2 L R' B' D' B2 F D' R2 B
9. 10.785 U2 B2 D2 B2 U' R2 U F2 D B2 R2 B' U2 R D2 B' D' U R2 F' L'
10. 10.897 L2 B2 F' R2 F' U2 B' U2 L2 R2 F' L D U2 B L2 F' L' U L' R'
11. 10.631 B D' F' L2 D' R L F2 L2 B2 U F2 R2 B2 D2 F2 D R2 B' D'
12. 9.893 F U' L F' U2 L2 B F' L2 U2 L2 B' D B F2 D U2 B2 R'

(This was very lucky though)

 

[Imsoosm]

*********
Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-05
single: 10.001

Time List:
1. 10.001 L2 B2 L2 B' U2 B2 D2 L2 B L2 D2 F U' F L' R' F L2 U B

 

[NigelTheCuber]

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Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-05
single: 10.001

Time List:
1. 10.001 L2 B2 L2 B' U2 B2 D2 L2 B L2 D2 F U' F L' R' F L2 U B

rare footage of imsoosm swearing

I bet ss forum censored it cause i dropped f bomb in my 13.98 pb ao5 and it censored

 

[Imsoosm]

Mega PB single and kilo PB ao5 (I used mega scram for kilo):

Spoiler: Mega Single

Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-05
single: 1:58.794

Time List:
1. 1:58.794 R++ D-- R++ D++ R-- D++ R++ D++ R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D-- R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- U'
R++ D++ R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- R++ D++ U
R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- R-- D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D++ R++ D++ U

Spoiler: Kilo ao5

Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-05
avg of 5: 34.336

Time List:
1. 35.729 R-- D++ R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U
R++ D++ R-- D++ R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D++ R++ D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R++ D-- R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R-- D++ R++ D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U

2. 32.897 R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R++ D++ U
R-- D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D++ U
R++ D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R++ D-- R++ D++ R++ D++ R-- D++ U
R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ U
R-- D++ R++ D-- R++ D++ R-- D++ R-- D-- U'

3. 34.381 R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R++ D-- U'
R++ D++ R-- D++ R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- R++ D++ U
R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R-- D-- U'
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D++ R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ U

4. (37.206) R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- U'
R++ D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R++ D-- R-- D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D++ R++ D++ R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R++ D++ R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- U'
R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R-- D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D++ U

5. (30.219) R-- D-- R-- D++ R++ D++ R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D-- U'
R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- U'
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D++ R-- D-- U'
R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D++ R-- D-- R-- D-- U'
R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R++ D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U

rare footage of imsoosm swearing

I bet ss forum censored it cause i dropped f bomb in my 13.98 pb ao5 and it censored

No I put in the **** because I thought ss would censor it

 

[NigelTheCuber]

Mega PB single and kilo PB ao5 (I used mega scram for kilo):

Spoiler: Mega Single

Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-05
single: 1:58.794

Time List:
1. 1:58.794 R++ D-- R++ D++ R-- D++ R++ D++ R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D-- R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- U'
R++ D++ R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- R++ D++ U
R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- R-- D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D++ R++ D++ U

Spoiler: Kilo ao5

Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-05
avg of 5: 34.336

Time List:
1. 35.729 R-- D++ R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U
R++ D++ R-- D++ R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D++ R++ D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R++ D-- R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R-- D++ R++ D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U

2. 32.897 R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R++ D++ U
R-- D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D++ U
R++ D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R++ D-- R++ D++ R++ D++ R-- D++ U
R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ U
R-- D++ R++ D-- R++ D++ R-- D++ R-- D-- U'

3. 34.381 R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R++ D-- U'
R++ D++ R-- D++ R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- R++ D++ U
R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R-- D-- U'
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D++ R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ U

4. (37.206) R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- U'
R++ D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R++ D-- R-- D-- U'
R-- D-- R-- D++ R-- D++ R++ D++ R++ D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R++ D++ R-- D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- U'
R++ D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D++ R-- D++ U
R++ D++ R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D++ U

5. (30.219) R-- D-- R-- D++ R++ D++ R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D-- U'
R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D-- U'
R++ D++ R++ D-- R-- D++ R++ D++ R-- D-- U'
R++ D++ R-- D-- R++ D++ R-- D-- R-- D-- U'
R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D-- R-- D-- R-- D++ U
R++ D-- R-- D++ R-- D-- R++ D-- R-- D++ U

No I put in the **** because I thought ss would censor it

lmao

you would have wanted to say f*** no wth

 

[Eli Apperson]

lmao

you would have wanted to say f*** no wth

Grow up, stop making a big deal about it, it's not cool or funny.

 

[NigelTheCuber]

Grow up, stop making a big deal about it, it's not cool or funny.

GrOw uP, sRoP mAkINg a BiG dEAl AboUT iT, itZ NoT cOol OR fUNnY

 

[Eli Apperson]

GrOw uP, sRoP mAkINg a BiG dEAl AboUT iT, itZ NoT cOol OR fUNnY

Haha. Your immaturity doesn't help anyone, but it could however deter one of the many parents on here from letting their kids join, which would in turn technically hurt the growth of cubing. So, again, I say grow up.
Jsyk I don't even care, but a lot of people do.

 

[NigelTheCuber]

yes i know sorry

i am dumb

 

[Imsoosm]

@Eli Apperson, I'm doing great with Hoya right now, but I have a problem:
During cross edge pairing, sometimes one or two of the edges are in back slots so I can't see. Then I have to rotate to see where it is, then rotate back and take it out and then put it in the correct position. This wastes a lot of time, so do you have any tips to get faster during cross edge pairing?

 

[Imsoosm]

1LLL is just much more efficient.
Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-06
single: 7.108

Time List:
1. 7.108 D F U2 R2 U2 B2 F' D2 B D2 L2 F U R2 U' B' U L D' U'

z2 y // inspection
D R' F R2 D L D2 // cross
y' U R U R2 U' R // first pair
y' U R U R2 U' R // second pair (lol exactly the same as 1p)
U' F U' F' // third pair
U2 R U' R' U' R U' R' U R U' R' // fourth pair
U' F R' F' R U R U' R' U // 1LLL

45 stm in 7.108 sec // 6.33 tps

Also, for OLL 36 (lightning I think) I now switched to this alg:
R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R U' R' F R F'
It's longer than standard, but as standard has either cube rotation or uses leftie, I'll use this from now on. (also better ergonomics)

 

[NigelTheCuber]

1LLL is just much more efficient.
Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-06
single: 7.108

Time List:
1. 7.108 D F U2 R2 U2 B2 F' D2 B D2 L2 F U R2 U' B' U L D' U'

z2 y // inspection
D R' F R2 D L D2 // cross
y' U R U R2 U' R // first pair
y' U R U R2 U' R // second pair (lol exactly the same as 1p)
U' F U' F' // third pair
U2 R U' R' U' R U' R' U R U' R' // fourth pair
U' F R' F' R U R U' R' U // 1LLL

45 stm in 7.108 sec // 6.33 tps

Also, for OLL 36 (lightning I think) I now switched to this alg:
R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R U' R' F R F'
It's longer than standard, but as standard has either cube rotation or uses leftie, I'll use this from now on. (also better ergonomics)

brian sun has a 10 move alg see if u like it

R U R2' F' U' F U R2 U2' R'

 

[Imsoosm]

brian sun has a 10 move alg see if u like it

R U R2' F' U' F U R2 U2' R'

Nah, I'm not that good at F moves (especially with thumb), I'll stick with the long one

 

[Timona]

Nah, I'm not that good at F moves (especially with thumb), I'll stick with the long one

R U (Homegrip then pinch U) R2' F' ( Push F' with Right Index) U' F ( U' with Left Index, F with Right Index) U R2 U2 R' ( Push U with Left Index and R2 is a wrist turn, U2 flick with Left hand and finish)

That's how I fingertrick it.