Possible to get fast (20-30s) using this method for square-1?

[CalebW]

Is it possible to get reasonably fast using the method described here: http://www.jaapsch.net/puzzles/square1.htm#s2m6? It seems pretty simple: acquire cube shape, pair edges with corners, fix parity, permutate pairs. I'm just wondering how fast this method can be.

 

[Randomno]

If you wanted to, yes. It's probably a better idea to go for Vandenbergh or Roux and Screw though.

 

[Lid]

JeongMin Yu has uses a variation of this method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClKvoilQ1WM

 

[CalebW]

If you wanted to, yes. It's probably a better idea to go for Vandenbergh or Roux and Screw though.

But there's a lot more steps and SOOOOO many algs.

JeongMin Yu has uses a variation of this method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClKvoilQ1WM

Is there someplace where he describes his method?

 

[Randomno]

But there's a lot more steps and SOOOOO many algs.

No there aren't. You only need 4 algs to be decent and 20 max to get quite fast.

 

[CalebW]

No there aren't. You only need 4 algs to be decent and 20 max to get quite fast.

For Vandenbergh?

 

[Randomno]

For Vandenbergh?

Yeah, I'm not sure about Roux and Screw.

 

[MTGjumper]

For Vandenbergh?

For Vandenbergh you don't need many algs to be fast. I was sub-20 knowing about six EPs, of which four were really short.

 

[CalebW]

Which are the best EP algs to learn first?

 

[Randomno]

Which are the best EP algs to learn first?

Adjacent parity, adjacent adjacent, opposite opposite, H perm (top and bottom), Z perm.

 

[CraZZ CFOP]

Is it possible to get reasonably fast using the method described here: http://www.jaapsch.net/puzzles/square1.htm#s2m6? It seems pretty simple: acquire cube shape, pair edges with corners, fix parity, permutate pairs. I'm just wondering how fast this method can be.

I got to about 23 average in 3 months with Cary's variation of this method.
50 algs for full version but most are really easy to learn and are short.

 

[CraZZ CFOP]

Potential: CSP: 1.5 seconds
First Three Pairs: 3 seconds
L5P: 3.5 seconds
(Advanced) 1 look pair solve: 2.5 seconds
Overall: 10.5 seconds (Not too slow!)

 

[Underwatercuber]

Vanderberg I use 6 algs and average like 30, Lin I use 10 and average 25 but if i cut it down to 6 for EP I average 30

 

[CraZZ CFOP]

Vanderberg I use 6 algs and average like 30, Lin I use 10 and average 25 but if i cut it down to 6 for EP I average 30

I know, but the method has some potential, as I could easily get sub 25 with a method that has yet to be developed.

 

[DesertWolf]

Tbh. I feel you want to be super fast at squan then you’re gonna have to learn a lot of algs and go with vanderberg, but if you want to be decently fast you can go for LIN. I know people that are sub-15 just knowing the 6 LIN cases and EPLL (+parity obv). Yes there’s people that are sub-10 with LIN. But they learned a lot of extra algs which is why I’m not taking them as an example. The only thing is LIN requires a bit of extra practice.
How useful this method your showing turns out to be depends on your goals and it’s learning curve. But I don’t see it as viable as something like LIN, vanderberg or even Screw.

 

[CraZZ CFOP]

Well, it answers the thread's question, since it is kind of obvious that you could get 20-30 second averages with the method. The fact that you could even get sub-20 with Skwuction makes it not complete garbage in my eyes.

I know that I can't get really fast with this method, which is why I'm also learning Vandenberg at the same time.

 

[U Perm]

Adjacent parity, adjacent adjacent, opposite opposite, H perm (top and bottom), Z perm.

I know those but I average sub 50.
also totally random but I unscrewed my volt squan and cannot screw it back together. any sugjestions?

 

[Mike Hughey]

I only know 3 EP (the first 3 above) and I average easily sub-40 when I'm in practice. And I'm generally really slow.

I think way back when Dan Cohen had a WR in it, he only knew about 10 of them.

 

[CraZZ CFOP]

I know those but I average sub 50.
also totally random but I unscrewed my volt squan and cannot screw it back together. any sugjestions?

Learn Kite-Scallop (The name is misleading, since you should also need to learn Scallop-Scallop method and Square-Kite for it to be effective, and maybe even Pawn-Pawn)
I know 2-look EP and I average like 30 with Vandenberg.
I know: Adj-Adj
Adj-Nothing
Opp-Opp
Opp-Nothing
Adj-W
Opp-Ocw
Opp-Occw
Ucw-Ucw
Uccw-Uccw
Ucw-Nothing
Uccw-Nothing
Z-nothing
H-Nothing
H-H
Ocw-Nothing
Occw-Nothing
But I kinda suck since EO+CP recognition takes forever for me.

 

[U Perm]

Learn Kite-Scallop (The name is misleading, since you should also need to learn Scallop-Scallop method and Square-Kite for it to be effective, and maybe even Pawn-Pawn)
I know 2-look EP and I average like 30 with Vandenberg.
I know: Adj-Adj
Adj-Nothing
Opp-Opp
Opp-Nothing
Adj-W
Opp-Ocw
Opp-Occw
Ucw-Ucw
Uccw-Uccw
Ucw-Nothing
Uccw-Nothing
Z-nothing
H-Nothing
H-H
Ocw-Nothing
Occw-Nothing
But I kinda suck since EO+CP recognition takes forever for me.

I know adj adj
ajd nothing
opp-opp
and ucw ucw and now I am pretty much sub 40 (ish)