#### PapaSmurf

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It's intuitive, but you have to understand how CO works, so the best way to do it is by just messing about.

#### Swagrid

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I never really understood how TSLE could be done intuitively. Could someone help to clear my doubts?
You learn how each trigger effects the pieces on the cube, and learn/figure out which triggers you need to do to reduce the cases. Like you learn all the 1 trigger cases, then figure out/learn how to turn all the 2 trigger cases into 1 trigger cases. Then 3 to 2.

#### Burrito

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Do you think that if someone learned and could execute all of the algorithms very fast, that this method could easily beat Roux, or Petrus, or it's succesor ZZ?
Yes. 100% The movecount is is similar to roux but turning faster = gangster

Also, I think you mean predecessor.

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#### PapaSmurf

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We know that ZZ-CT is objectively worse than ZZ-A, and then there's a proper debate to be had whether ZZ-A or Roux are better (or equal). So no, ZZ-CT couldn't beat the big 3 (or Petrus maybe).

#### Burrito

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We know that ZZ-CT is objectively worse than ZZ-A, and then there's a proper debate to be had whether ZZ-A or Roux are better (or equal). So no, ZZ-CT couldn't beat the big 3 (or Petrus maybe).
Is it because of the alg count? Or something else? (I want to learn CT because I like the luck and I want something spicier than boring OCLL and PLL.)

#### PapaSmurf

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Is it because of the alg count? Or something else? (I want to learn CT because I like the luck and I want something spicier than boring OCLL and PLL.)
Nope, it's the movecount mainly, also the fact that you can be (should be) slot neutral. The luck isn't a great factor to learn it and it's overhyped how useful it is.

#### Burrito

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Nope, it's the movecount mainly, also the fact that you can be (should be) slot neutral. The luck isn't a great factor to learn it and it's overhyped how useful it is.
Isnt the movecount similar to Roux? (idk i just watched the seminar and the colorfulpockets vid)

#### PapaSmurf

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Isnt the movecount similar to Roux? (idk i just watched the seminar and the colorfulpockets vid)
Siimilar being about 8-10 moves, then yes. But because of that, no.