Yish is a liar

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I think a lot of you are misreading Mr. Pochmann's comments. Yes, ok he did say he will be suspicious of Singapore cubers, but I think when he was talking about warning the WCA, it was not directed at all Singaporean cubers, but the few who seem extremely suspect (as in Mr Yish here). I'm sure you (with your almost perfect grammar and rather advanced language for a 16 year old) are no threat to the genuine cubers' community, and thus I applaud you for your efforts towards making cubing a much larger and more internationally recognised sport.
 
I am suggesting that a 16 year old who is capable of writing like that without any adult help, with perhaps a little bit of work in their grammar (and spelling), would be capable of receiveing a scholarship in English here in New Zealand. Is English their first language? I guess that question can be aimed directly at them.
 
Well, unlike some of my other Singaporean friends, I'm brought up in an English-speaking environment, rather than a Chinese-speaking (Chinese is the majority race in Singapore) and other language-speaking ones. Therefore, my command of the language is significantly stronger, compared to some of those I know in school, who struggles with the language. I did get an A1 for English in the Singapore-Cambridge General Certificate of Education Normal levels examinations, but the N-levels is considered insignificant as I am from the Normal(Academic) stream, while most of my other friends are in the Express stream, who goes on to do the Ordinary levels immediately, whilst I spend an extra year doing the N-levels, then proceeding on the next year to do the O-levels, which is next year for me and the rest of my classmates.

@Dene: I understand, but still it is quite unnecessary to say "...the few". Even if there are, before joining a WCA-sanctioned competition they should be briefed over the rules and regulations laid out by the WCA board and Ron van Bruchem, as failure to complete their tasks in the competition could mean waste of time and money(due to administrative needs for the competition. Well, nothing comes free in this world, except salvation from Jesus Christ). Besides, I firmly believe that there are definitely no allowances for cheating. According to Article 8f of the World Cube Association Competition Regulations Version 2007:

"If the WCA regulations are not followed correctly during a competition, then the WCA board may declare the competition, specific events or specific solves unofficial."

Because of this, I have a inference that Stefan is just marginalizing and that he is turning this into a witch hunt. Well, this debate could go on forever.
 
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YOU ARE MISUNDERSTANDING MY PURPOSE OF MY POST. My intention was to tell people about how to use it. It is not to prove whatever claim that yish was cheating whatsoever.
He, at no point, said your post was intended to prove whatever claims...

If cube explorer doesn't work like that, SOMETHING IS WRONG.
yes, it works that way...you put the colors and it generates a short (or optimal, if you want) solution to that cube state
what I (and I guess most people here) don't understand is how in the world would cube explorer help someone's lookahead o.O

THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING ALL THESE IS BECAUSE THAT STEFANPOCHMANN IS INDIRECTLY CLAIMING THAT I'M LIAISED WITH YISH IN HIS 'CHEATING' EFFORTS.
I don't think he's saying that...he said nothing about you trying to help Yish in his cheating...at least I didn't understand that from all his posts...

...But 3 days dfference is just ridiculous. Therefore, if Stefan was not making any mistake at all, he must be mistaken to QUOTE ME.[/size]
he wasn't quoting you
he was quoting Yish's response to your post about cube explorer

his response was on december 4th, and he posted the video here at december 5th, so "one day after..." is indeed correct
 
Let me reproduce what he said:

he averages around 12s. (meaning yish, not his bro)
Wrong, he averages 10.5 seconds now:
http://sgcubers.com/forum/index.php?topic=56.msg494#msg494

And he got a nonlucky 6.61 single solve:
http://sgcubers.com/forum/index.php?topic=37.msg218#msg218

That video was posted one day after this:

optakeover: "You can also use the software [Cube Explorer] to reverse the solving, to show you how form a clean cube you are able to obtain the pattern that you input into the facelet editor."

yish: "woah sweet thanks! this will help me loads in improving my lookahead."

Now, please look at this line:

StefanPochmann said:
optakeover: "You can also use the software [Cube Explorer] to reverse the solving, to show you how form a clean cube you are able to obtain the pattern that you input into the facelet editor."

yish: "woah sweet thanks! this will help me loads in improving my lookahead."

A mistake made: by quoting in this manner, he is putting me into the issue. I'm out of it, please. I'm just here to show that I might been wrongly placed into this issue.
 
i think that all of this can be settled if this member yish here posts up an actual pb video instead of single solves. cos frankly i have my doubts, and i dont like to accuse people of being liars and cheaters, so i am going to send him a message, telling him to post up an average video of 12.

it is a bit laughable though. we are all flaming him here and he probably doesnt even know it. imagine if he is legit. though i seriously doubt so.

it is just my humble opinion, but i dont think i will say anything until say he does/ doesnt post up an average video by like 3 days or something? but that is just my personal take on this issue.
 
Let me reproduce what he said:

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A mistake made: by quoting in this manner, he is putting me into the issue. I'm out of it, please. I'm just here to show that I might been wrongly placed into this issue.

nah, I still don't see you being put into the issue

he was just quoting Yish's response to your post about cube explorer...
 
Clarification:

optakeover's comments require some clarifications from me:

1) I do accuse Yish and his brother (the guy with the eye-patch) of cheating, and have said so explicitly.

2a) I do not suspect any other Singaporean cuber of cheating, or supporting cheaters. I do realize one of my remarks can be interpreted to imply this, but this was not intended. I apologize.

2b) As far as I understand, you're the Singaporean cube club and forum, and I hadn't seen any of you express doubts in the video, your forum, or here. So I was wondering what you'd do if you run a competition. I don't question your honesty, but I'm unsure about your ability or eagerness to detect dishonesty.

3) Mostly, my Singaporean remark was designed to arouse you guys, and to make Yish aware that there's more at stake than just himself. I was the first to publicly express doubts about your group as such, but I'm sure others have felt similarly (in the above 2b way). And I don't want that. I'd much rather see your group take action and see Yish come clean. When I said "lifelong distrust", I was still very angry from his acts. I believe he will have to deal with that, but I shouldn't have said I "hope" for it. That was uncalled-for, and I apologize. (Edit: I read the context again. Actually Pedro had asked what people cheat for and my reply was "Lifelong distrust, I hope". But of course that doesn't literally make sense, and the "hope" was mostly for the cheater being caught, the lifelong distrust then being a consequence of that. But it was still unnecessary, so I still apologize.)

Other issues:

- I didn't attack your cube explorer post and didn't say that you're supporting Yish with it. I applaud you for finding CE and telling your fellow sgcubers about it. It's a great program. I only posted your remark to put Yish's in context. I thought that was obvious. You explained that one can find scrambles for given cubes, and that's exactly what I suspect Yish has done one day after seeing it (that's where the "one day" came from, I did see you posted earlier, but he didn't).

- The "good job" referred to chue.hsien and the sgcubers not expressing any kind of doubts, thereby making me doubt more than just Yish (again in the 2b way). Thus obviously it wasn't my good job but yours (and particularly chue's, for various reasons), and "good" was ironic, in a sad way.

- You said that if WCA is incompetent at detecting cheating in blindsolving, it's also incompetent at that in sighted solving. I don't think so. It's much easier to cheat in blindsolving than in sighted solving, and it also has a much more significant impact. You'd probably understand if you knew more about blindsolving and how WCA competitions work.

Finally, I'd like to say I didn't think this issue would take on the proportions it did. I'm also not happy with some of the added arguments like the tapping of the center, which I agree is irrelevant. I was hoping the whole issue would be sorted out quickly, because to me the evidence is clear, and I consider myself enough of an expert to judge this correctly.
 
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Hi there I am a Singaporean cuber myself if most people have already realized :)

To be honest, I have seen "yish's brother" in action before, and I was at the scene of the supposed '5-cube blindfold'. I do not believe anything I saw. He just looked too fake, and although he did a couple of sub-10 solves at the gathering that day, I was not impressed because I just didn't believe it was possible. In one of his solves, I did a count of the number of moves in his solution, it was ~25. You know what that means. What's more intriguing was that I didn't even see him complete cross, and he was already yelling 'X-cross... F2L pair... intuitive ZB...' which seems really rubbish.

Everyone else seems amazed but of course there were a couple of skeptics that wished to remain quiet for the rest of the gathering. Just to share what I feel. I am very disappointed if he / his brother are fake (which I can't really say although there is overwhelming evidence). I can however vouch though chue.hsien is genuine, he is a pretty nice guy and he does sub-20 on average easily.

Maybe I shouldn't have posted that '5-cube blindfold' video in the first place. I was very doubtful of its authenticity and already predicted flaming but was urged to post it up to show people how good supposedly yish's brother was. Just to summarize, I am disappointed that yish / his brother's actions have tarnished the name of Singaporean cubers but I hope the international community will give us a chance and not condemn our entire local community over this. Thanks :)
 
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