World Championship 2015 - São Paulo, Brazil - July 17-19, 2015

For information purposes, I leave here some stats about brazilian cubers that some of you may not know.
I counted brazilian presences in all the events top100 average (except for a few events where single was taken, for comparison purposes).
(using WCA export 416)
[TABLE="class:grid,align:left"]
[TR][TD] Event [/TD][TD] top100 [/TD][TD] Competitor(s) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333 [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Gabriel Dechichi Barbar [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 444 [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Pedro Henrique Da Silva Roque [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 555 [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Pedro Henrique Da Silva Roque [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 222 [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Gabriel Dechichi Barbar [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333bf (Single) [/TD][TD] 2 [/TD][TD] Gabriel Dechichi Barbar, Walter Pereira Rodrigues de Souza [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333oh [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Gabriel Dechichi Barbar [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333fm (Single) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] João Pedro Batista Ribeiro Costa [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333ft [/TD][TD] 7 [/TD][TD] Gabriel Pereira Campanha, Rafael Werneck Cinoto, Gilson Sousa da Silva, Diego Bojunga Meneghetti, Felipe Baldívio Freires, Chan Hong Lik, Rafaela Oliveira da Silva [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] minx [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][TD] Fabiano Pinheiro de Oliveira, Ronan Felipe Jorge, Gustavo Silva Sousa [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] pyram [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][TD] Samuel Antônio Araújo de Jesus, Irwin Arruda Sales, Felipe da Cruz Bueno [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] sq1 [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Gabriel Bucsan [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] clock [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Pedro Santos Guimarães [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 666 [/TD][TD] 2 [/TD][TD] Pedro Henrique Da Silva Roque, Gustavo Maysonnave Franck [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 777 [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Gustavo Maysonnave Franck [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 444bf (Single) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Israel Fraga da Silva [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 555bf (Single) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Walter Pereira Rodrigues de Souza [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333mbf (Single) [/TD][TD] 2 [/TD][TD] Gabriel Dechichi Barbar, Walter Pereira Rodrigues de Souza [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] skewb [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] João Pedro Batista Ribeiro Costa [/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class:grid,align:left"]
[TR][TD] Competitor [/TD][TD] Number of presences in top100 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Gabriel Dechichi Barbar [/TD][TD] 5 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Pedro Henrique Da Silva Roque [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Walter Pereira Rodrigues de Souza [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] João Pedro Batista Ribeiro Costa [/TD][TD] 2 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Gustavo Maysonnave Franck [/TD][TD] 2 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Gabriel Pereira Campanha [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Rafael Werneck Cinoto [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Gilson Sousa da Silva [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Diego Bojunga Meneghetti [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Felipe Baldívio Freires [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Chan Hong Lik [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Rafaela Oliveira da Silva [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Fabiano Pinheiro de Oliveira [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Ronan Felipe Jorge [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Gustavo Silva Sousa [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Samuel Antônio Araújo de Jesus [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Irwin Arruda Sales [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Felipe da Cruz Bueno [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Gabriel Bucsan [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Pedro Santos Guimarães [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Israel Fraga da Silva [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]
Of these names, I would like to highlight Gabriel Dechichi Barbar, that is top100 average for 2x2, 3x3, 3BLD, OH and MultiBLD, and the real underwater 3x3 solving record holder with 8 cubes (that I know of).

I would also like to highlight Gabriel Pereira Campanha which holds currently 2 World Records (Single and Average) for Rubik's Cube: with feet.

Also, Walter Pereira Rodrigues de Souza which is the creator of the well known Prisma Puzzle Timer.

Chan Hong Lik is also top100 already in one event, which is well known in the community for his (at this point in time) increadibly young age.

Finally, I would like to highlight the work of Rafael Cinoto and Pedro Santos Guimarães, two of the brazilian delegates which contributions to the community are too vast to mention on this post.

Also, for comparison, I did the same study for Thailand at the end of 2010:

[TABLE="class:grid,align:left"]
[TR][TD] Event [/TD][TD] top100 [/TD][TD] Competitor(s) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333 [/TD][TD] 5 [/TD][TD] Piti Pichedpan (ปิติ พิเชษฐพันธ์), Nipat Charoenpholphant (นิพัฒน์ เจริญพลพันธุ์), Peerawich Hiranpaphakorn (พีรวิชญ์ พิรัญปภากร) , Baramee Pookcharoen (บารมี พุกเจริญ), Asia Konvittayayotin (เอเชีย กรวิทยโยธิน) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 444 [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][TD] Nipat Charoenpholphant (นิพัฒน์ เจริญพลพันธุ์), Piti Pichedpan (ปิติ พิเชษฐพันธ์), Asia Konvittayayotin (เอเชีย กรวิทยโยธิน) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 555 [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][TD] Asia Konvittayayotin (เอเชีย กรวิทยโยธิน), Nipat Charoenpholphant (นิพัฒน์ เจริญพลพันธุ์), Piti Pichedpan (ปิติ พิเชษฐพันธ์) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 222 [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][TD] Nipat Charoenpholphant (นิพัฒน์ เจริญพลพันธุ์), Peerawich Hiranpaphakorn (พีรวิชญ์ พิรัญปภากร) , Asia Konvittayayotin (เอเชีย กรวิทยโยธิน) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333bf (Single) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Preeda Hongpimolmas (ปรีดา หงส์พิมลมาศ) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333oh [/TD][TD] 5 [/TD][TD] Piti Pichedpan (ปิติ พิเชษฐพันธ์), Sittinon Sukhaya (สิทธินนท์ สุขายะ), Baramee Pookcharoen (บารมี พุกเจริญ), Peerawich Hiranpaphakorn (พีรวิชญ์ พิรัญปภากร), Nipat Charoenpholphant (นิพัฒน์ เจริญพลพันธุ์) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333fm (Single) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Chonlathep Kitsinthopchai (ชลเทพ กิจสินธพชัย) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333ft [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][TD] Tong Boonrod (ต๋อง บุญรอด) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] minx [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][TD] Gomain Ngernseng (โกเมน เงินเส็ง), Nipat Charoenpholphant (นิพัฒน์ เจริญพลพันธุ์), Worasil Bunpeam (วรศิลป์ บุญเปี่ยม) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] pyram [/TD][TD] 2 [/TD][TD] Nipat Charoenpholphant (นิพัฒน์ เจริญพลพันธุ์), Anukun Supcharoenkun (อนุกูล ทรัพย์เจริญกุล) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] sq1 [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][TD] Yuttana Suputthayangkun (ยุทธนา สุพุทธยางกูร), Noppawat Kumdee (ณพวัฒน์ คำดี), Anukun Supcharoenkun (อนุกูล ทรัพย์เจริญกุล) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] clock [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 666 [/TD][TD] 2 [/TD][TD] Asia Konvittayayotin (เอเชีย กรวิทยโยธิน), Gomain Ngernseng (โกเมน เงินเส็ง) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 777 [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][TD] Asia Konvittayayotin (เอเชีย กรวิทยโยธิน), Gomain Ngernseng (โกเมน เงินเส็ง), Nipat Charoenpholphant (นิพัฒน์ เจริญพลพันธุ์) [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 444bf (Single) [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 555bf (Single) [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] 333mbf (Single) [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] skewb [/TD][TD] N/A [/TD][TD] [/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class:grid,align:left"]
[TR][TD] Competitor [/TD][TD] [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Piti Pichedpan (ปิติ พิเชษฐพันธ์) [/TD][TD] 4 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Nipat Charoenpholphant (นิพัฒน์ เจริญพลพันธุ์) [/TD][TD] 8 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Peerawich Hiranpaphakorn (พีรวิชญ์ พิรัญปภากร) [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Baramee Pookcharoen (บารมี พุกเจริญ) [/TD][TD] 2 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Asia Konvittayayotin (เอเชีย กรวิทยโยธิน) [/TD][TD] 6 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Preeda Hongpimolmas (ปรีดา หงส์พิมลมาศ) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Sittinon Sukhaya (สิทธินนท์ สุขายะ) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Chonlathep Kitsinthopchai (ชลเทพ กิจสินธพชัย) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Tong Boonrod (ต๋อง บุญรอด) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Gomain Ngernseng (โกเมน เงินเส็ง) [/TD][TD] 3 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Worasil Bunpeam (วรศิลป์ บุญเปี่ยม) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Anukun Supcharoenkun (อนุกูล ทรัพย์เจริญกุล) [/TD][TD] 2 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Yuttana Suputthayangkun (ยุทธนา สุพุทธยางกูร) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] Noppawat Kumdee (ณพวัฒน์ คำดี) [/TD][TD] 1 [/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]

Thailand had a few elite cubers back in 2010, but they had only 13 events with top100 people, spread through 14 competitors, as opposed to Brazil now, having 17 events with top100 presences (18 if you count skewb), spread through 21 competitors. Thailand also didn't have any official world records at the time. I don't think the two are exactly comparable, but the scenery is not so outrageously different in the competitiveness aspects of the host country to cause the upset this thread has been demonstrating about lack of fast people in Brazil.
 
cubizh said:
For information purposes, I leave here some stats about brazilian cubers that some of you may not know.
I counted brazilian presences in all the events top100 average (except for a few events where single was taken, for comparison purposes).
(using WCA export 416)
[...]
Also, for comparison, I did the same study for Thailand at the end of 2010:
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These are interesting stats, thanks. I would like to point out that many or most of the South American top100 cubers are from Brazil (just from what I've seen, I don't have the actual stats). However, while Thailand may not have such a huge number of top100 cubers themselves, there are several other countries nearby with other top cubers. The same was true about Germany, which may not have been such a cubing powerhouse itself, but it was a somewhat central western-Europe location within easy access of many other countries. So yeah, if you're gonna hold a competition in South America I agree Brazil is the clear choice. But I still don't think we should be holding a Worlds in South America any time soon.
 
cubizh said:
Not sure if you are referring to the 2 time world record holder or the one in the top100 3x3.
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Oh. Good point. There are dozens of Gabriels from Brazil alone, so it's hard to tell which ones were meant.

(People should just not share the same first name. Right, Stefan?)

Edit: Strange... I'm familiar with the top ten first names in Brazil except for the single most common one. Never heard of a João, neither in cubing nor elsewhere.

[TABLE="class:grid,align:left"]
[TR][TD]Name[/TD][TD]Persons[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]João[/TD][TD="align:right"]37[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Gabriel[/TD][TD="align:right"]35[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Lucas[/TD][TD="align:right"]35[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Matheus[/TD][TD="align:right"]30[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Bruno[/TD][TD="align:right"]29[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Felipe[/TD][TD="align:right"]28[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Pedro[/TD][TD="align:right"]27[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Guilherme[/TD][TD="align:right"]26[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Rafael[/TD][TD="align:right"]24[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Gustavo[/TD][TD="align:right"]24[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]
SELECT substring_index(name, ' ', 1) Name, count(*) Persons
FROM Persons
WHERE countryId = 'Brazil'
GROUP BY 1
ORDER BY Persons desc
LIMIT 10
 
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Dene said:
So you agree with the people who always say "host it in my backyard because that would be good for me"?

I mean honestly, are you so arrogant and naive that you always expect WCs to be convenient for you to get to?

WCs is deliberately spread out around the world to reach out to everyone. Personally I hope we don't go to the USA again for a long time. Las Vegas was great, but I want to go elsewhere now.
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Please point to the spot of my post where I said I "expected" world championships to be easy to get to for me. Please read posts more carefully next time so you don't jump to false conclusions about my or others' opinions.
 
Stefan said:
Oh. Good point. There are dozens of Gabriels from Brazil alone, so it's hard to tell which ones were meant.

(People should just not share the same first name. Right, Stefan?)

Edit: Strange... I'm familiar with the top ten first names in Brazil except for the single most common one. Never heard of a João, neither in cubing nor elsewhere.

[TABLE="class:grid,align:left"]
[TR][TD]Name[/TD][TD]Persons[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]João[/TD][TD="align:right"]37[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Gabriel[/TD][TD="align:right"]35[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Lucas[/TD][TD="align:right"]35[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Matheus[/TD][TD="align:right"]30[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Bruno[/TD][TD="align:right"]29[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Felipe[/TD][TD="align:right"]28[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Pedro[/TD][TD="align:right"]27[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Guilherme[/TD][TD="align:right"]26[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Rafael[/TD][TD="align:right"]24[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Gustavo[/TD][TD="align:right"]24[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]
SELECT substring_index(name, ' ', 1) Name, count(*) Persons
FROM Persons
WHERE countryId = 'Brazil'
GROUP BY 1
ORDER BY Persons desc
LIMIT 10
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There are quite a few: https://www.worldcubeassociation.or...eventId=&regionId=&pattern=joão&search=Search

No really famous one, except maybe for João Pedro Batista who just got the SAR single FM.
 
Stefan said:
Oh. Good point. There are dozens of Gabriels from Brazil alone, so it's hard to tell which ones were meant.

(People should just not share the same first name. Right, Stefan?)

Edit: Strange... I'm familiar with the top ten first names in Brazil except for the single most common one. Never heard of a João, neither in cubing nor elsewhere.

[TABLE="class:grid,align:left"]
[TR][TD]Name[/TD][TD]Persons[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]João[/TD][TD="align:right"]37[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Gabriel[/TD][TD="align:right"]35[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Lucas[/TD][TD="align:right"]35[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Matheus[/TD][TD="align:right"]30[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Bruno[/TD][TD="align:right"]29[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Felipe[/TD][TD="align:right"]28[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Pedro[/TD][TD="align:right"]27[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Guilherme[/TD][TD="align:right"]26[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Rafael[/TD][TD="align:right"]24[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Gustavo[/TD][TD="align:right"]24[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]
SELECT substring_index(name, ' ', 1) Name, count(*) Persons
FROM Persons
WHERE countryId = 'Brazil'
GROUP BY 1
ORDER BY Persons desc
LIMIT 10
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This is funny. I have in mind that most common names here are João, José e Pedro (a rough translation to John, Joseph and Peter).

Speaking about translation, some people asked about language to be used during competition. I have no idea how this is going to be addressed, but I volunteer to help on translations, as long as you are patient with my poor english;)

rybaby said:
In my opinion, Americans as well as others are perfectly justified in saying, "It's too far." Of course we (Americans) would prefer to have Worlds in North America because it is more convenient for us. Same goes for Europeans in Europe and Asians in Asia. Personally, I would prefer that Worlds would be held here in Texas. But I accept that the wishes of certain cubers will not always be fulfilled. You cannot please everybody. WCA is World Cube Association, so I think it's only fitting that the WC would be held in various places around the world. As for travel, it will be difficult for a lot of cubers to get there. But considering the Earth's size, no place can be "easy" for everyone to get to. I highly doubt I'll go. Most likely, I'll see if I can go to Nats when the location gets released. Best of luck to those who go.
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I totally agree with those who say "it is too far", after they have looked at the world map. Far or close is subjective, and depends on personnal interpretation. I'm only against those who say that before looking at the map and check the available flights, costs and duration, which was my impression for the very first posts in this thread.

I do this trip 3 or 4 times a year. You tipically take a night flight from Atlanta, Houston, Miami or any other city which has direct flight to Brazil. Then you just sit, close your eyes, sleep, and when you wake up you are in Brazil. Saying this way makes it looks closer, reinforcing the thing about subjectivity of distances :)
 
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rybaby said:
Please point to the spot of my post where I said I "expected" world championships to be easy to get to for me. Please read posts more carefully next time so you don't jump to false conclusions about my or others' opinions.
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Don't make a strawman...

It was strongly implied by your post that you feel like WCs should be convenient for you to get to (why else would you say "it'd be nice to have it here in good old Texas even though we just had it a few miles away in Vegas"). Otherwise, why even bother to make a post in the first place? You didn't contribute anything to the thread, or add anything more than has already been said by all the other whingers.

Perhaps the language in my post was unfairly blunt, but it is frustrating seeing so many people complaining, especially about the distance. Other than some Asians, those of us here in Australia are going to have to travel further than anyone else to get there. To us, it seems like being in the USA and travelling to Brazil is a nice short journey in comparison.

The world is a big place, and WCs is going to go all over it. People need to shift their mentality from "it's too far" to "if I'm committed to getting to WCs, I'm committed to travelling any distance, otherwise I'll just have to miss out".
 
Dene said:
Don't make a strawman...

It was strongly implied by your post that you feel like WCs should be convenient for you to get to (why else would you say "it'd be nice to have it here in good old Texas even though we just had it a few miles away in Vegas"). Otherwise, why even bother to make a post in the first place? You didn't contribute anything to the thread, or add anything more than has already been said by all the other whingers.

Perhaps the language in my post was unfairly blunt, but it is frustrating seeing so many people complaining, especially about the distance. Other than some Asians, those of us here in Australia are going to have to travel further than anyone else to get there. To us, it seems like being in the USA and travelling to Brazil is a nice short journey in comparison.

The world is a big place, and WCs is going to go all over it. People need to shift their mentality from "it's too far" to "if I'm committed to getting to WCs, I'm committed to travelling any distance, otherwise I'll just have to miss out".
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I specifically acknowledged that WCs aren't convenient for a vast majority of people. There's no greater reason to hold it in Texas than Japan than Brazil because overall many people will have to travel long distances.

So if I'm not contributing anything to this thread, what are you contributing by misinterpreting and attacking my post? Or at you just pardoned to say what you like because you're well known on the forums? I doubt either side is contributing much here.
 
It seems like WC's acceptance is actually bigger than i thought. That's nice, I appreciate all the support messages :). Really excited about 2015!
 
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Stefan said:
What percentage of Brazilian cubers who might go to Worlds speak English? German? Spanish?
I'm considering learning some Portuguese if useful.
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Without being able to answer that question, I can say that Spanish is intelligible to Portuguese speakers (but not vice versa). So if you know Spanish, you can talk to them, but not the other way around.
 
Stefan said:
What percentage of Brazilian cubers who might go to Worlds speak English? German? Spanish?
I'm considering learning some Portuguese if useful.
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I guess about 30% should speak good English, and maybe more 20% can at least communicate in English if you speak very very slowly. Many people know specific cubing terms just by watching YouTube tutorials in English.
 
This link shows a little of Rafael Cinoto´s hard work to grow cubing community in Brazil. Rafael is one of WCA delegates here in Brazil, and he has introduced Rubix cube in school as a mandatory discipline. Right now he has 168 students. Unfortunately the video is in portuguese, but will give a good idea on how serious the thing is. It was presented in the main TV broadcast in Brazil. Enjoy it.
 
DuffyEdge said:
Apparently, Spanish and English are the most popular second languages (followed by German and Italian).

I'm not sure many Brazilians would speak much French.
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I quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote this one:

theZcuber said:
Without being able to answer that question, I can say that Spanish is intelligible to Portuguese speakers (but not vice versa). So if you know Spanish, you can talk to them, but not the other way around.
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Wondering if they might understand French a little, as it is similar to Spanish and Portuguese.
 
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