Why times have dropped?
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JyH
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Everything.
Phlippieskezer
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Every single one of those are linked, so lol.
Better fingertricks + better look ahead = faster TPS
Better fingertricks + better look ahead = faster TPS
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Hershey
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Solve has almost no pauses, solve has less moves, TPS is very fast.
Phlippieskezer
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Really? I don't really think the top solvers are really optimising their movecount at all... They just getting lucky in some singles.
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Hershey
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Are you saying that cubers are more "TPS GOGOGO!" than actually thinking? That is just sad.
Phlippieskezer
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Yes, it is sad (at least somewhat). And, yes, that is what I'm saying.
A lot of the top cubers, anyway. It looks a lot like they go for the speed optimised algs and tricks rather than the move-optimised ones (which does make some sense). Sure, they still try to make their solves relatively optimal (it's not like Faz's average movecount is 100 with 15 TPS or something that absurd), but still. To me, it seems like when you're at that point (which, btw, I am NOT), you focus on TPS more than efficiency.
PS: "TPS GOGOGO!" isn't necessary not "actual thinking," IMO, because people still like to fiddle and find new fingertricks.
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Hershey
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I thought Faz optimizes his F2L? Looking at his walkthrough solves, he does small tricks here and there.
cubernya
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Feliks uses zeroing 
Jokerman5656
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cubing epiphany's
RNewms27
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Compared to less-experienced cubers, their movecount is optimized pretty well in F2L. Faz usually has long algorithms because of his fingertricks for LL
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Hershey
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Feliks uses zeroing
That is kinda what I said, he uses small tricks to optimize F2L.
Yuxuibbs
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don't get how people can get 60 move solves for cfop.... i usually use >100..... is it because of the amount of sexy moves i do during f2l?
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Hershey
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You turn faster than you can think maybe? Less thinking, more algorithms and wasted moves.
tozies24
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~7 move cross, ~7 moves for each f2l pair, ~10 moves for oll, ~10-15 for pll equals roughly 60 (obviously every case is going to be different)
please don't say that these approximations are wrong because I didn't look them up but am guessing that these are about average. I know that some crosses are 3 or less, and some pairs are easier than others.
Yuxuibbs
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i use over 100 when im actually counting my moves and trying not to waste moves....
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Hershey
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WHAT? How?
More information is available today, more competition drives more practice, etc.
As for CFOP move count, shoot for 30-35 or less moves for entire F2L.
As for CFOP move count, shoot for 30-35 or less moves for entire F2L.
tozies24
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Could be using 2 look oll/ 2 look pll. If someone ends up doing the sune 2 times because they don't know the algorithm for the case, then they would end up adding an additive 7 moves or so. 2 look pll would end up adding another 10-15 moves minimum
Yuxuibbs
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i do cross on white, f2l, cross on yellow with F R U R' U' F' if needed, OLL, PLL (1 look unless its a g perm or n perm)
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