Which cuber has the fastest turn speed?

[bluecloe45]

I think Rowe

 

[Cool Frog]

ARG! I hate that notation! It's clearly M.

That is incorrect.
IIRC
LBD follow MSE
M'U finishes.

 

[Zubon]

You can't just assume that the fastest solver has the fastest turning speed. Some cubers turn amazingly fast in bursts which can cause pauses due to look ahead being lost.
Different cubers have different algs and triggers that they are good at doing fast. I don't think Feliks has extremely fast TPS, but the way he jumps links his algs and triggers together looks like he starts one before the previous one has finished.

 

[Ltsurge]

i like yu's turning style. Choppy but fast.

 

[AvGalen]

You can't just assume that the fastest solver has the fastest turning speed. Some cubers turn amazingly fast in bursts which can cause pauses due to look ahead being lost.
Different cubers have different algs and triggers that they are good at doing fast. I don't think Feliks has extremely fast TPS, but the way he jumps links his algs and triggers together looks like he starts one before the previous one has finished.

Part of Feliks low times is explained by his incredible TPS. He did several WR's that had > 55 moves (the "average" for a normal CFOP solve) while reaching a time that nobody else is capable of doing. It is a bit sad that his "dumb" solving turns out to be so fast. Thinking/Optimising during a speedsolve isn't a great strategy obviously

 

[uberCuber]

That is incorrect.
IIRC
LBD follow MSE
M'U finishes.

pretty sure S follows F

 

[waffle=ijm]

M follows L
S follows F
E follows D

xyz (rotations) follow URF already and can't take in the place of MSE.

edit - I fail.

 

[Elbeasto94]

I am tired of people thinking that faz is God, God is God, FAZ is a really good cuber

 

[uberCuber]

S

It follows F

 

[Faz]

Easily corny.

 

[blah]

Part of Feliks low times is explained by his incredible TPS. He did several WR's that had > 55 moves (the "average" for a normal CFOP solve) while reaching a time that nobody else is capable of doing. It is a bit sad that his "dumb" solving turns out to be so fast. Thinking/Optimising during a speedsolve isn't a great strategy obviously

Some people really need to get off their high horse. I've seen this line throw around so many times it's sickening.

I'm not a fan of Faz's turning style myself. But I'm tired of seeing this whole self-comforting thing being thrown around again and again - "Yeah he just turns really fast but I know more F2L tricks/LL algs/my turning style is smoother/I have better lookahead/etc., so that makes me 'better' than he is," whatever the hell "better" means.

Dunking used to be illegal, at least in college basketball. Some say it was because of the risk of backboards breaking, some say it was to prevent Lew Alcindor from completely dominating the game, some say it was because the dunk was a "dumb" shot. If you can drive down the lane and dunk on someone every time, then by all means go ahead, it's the shot with the highest FG%, there's no reason not to do it. But if you can't, then don't go around saying "it's sad that dunking turns out to be such an effective way of scoring, practicing my fade-away three-pointers for six hours a day isn't a great strategy obviously," just shut up and move on and spend the time learning how to make *your* game better.

Shaq was born with his size and dominance, so he uses that to his full advantage. If someone says "yeah Shaq sucks at shooting and dribbling and passing and running and playmaking, so he's not really that good of a basketball player, he just has a really high FG% because he dunks all the time; Kobe is better because he's good at shooting and dribbling and passing and running and playmaking and he makes more ridiculous/impossible/clutch shots, even though he has a lower FG% than Shaq," you'd say they're just being sour and each is good at what he does.

Faz was born with the tps-lookahead combo he has and he's using it to his advantage right now, that's all. It just so happens that FG% is not the only statistic used to measure how good one is in basketball, but time is the only statistic used to measure how good one is in speedcubing, at least officially, so deal with it.

 

[Godmil]

Tricky one, If Faz is averaging 9.5 TPS for a solve, when you can see tiny pauses (or at least him going a little slower) then his top speeds in those solves must be immense.
On the other hand, Breandan has a sub-1 Y-Perm on video, so he can clearly do more than 17 TPS which is silly fast.

I can't decide between them, but it would be great to know how fast Faz' PLL's are.

...Also Corny is super fast.

 

[David Zemdegs]

but time is the only statistic used to measure how good one is in speedcubing, at least officially, so deal with it.

Its time we lobbied the WCA for giving points based on style like they do with synchronised swimming or gymnastics dont you think?

 

[Stefan]

"Yeah he just turns really fast but I know more F2L tricks/LL algs/my turning style is smoother/I have better lookahead/etc., so that makes me 'better' than he is"

Huh? Where did he say any of that? Particularly that last part?

 

[blah]

Huh? Where did he say any of that?

Nowhere.

 

[RCTACameron]

If Faz is averaging 9.5 TPS

If he was averaging 9.5 tps he would be getting sub-6 official averages. More like 6.5-7 tps.

 

[pappas]

Luke Bruce.

 

[Tim Major]

Luke Bruce.

I said this before but deleted my post
Remember at MS2011 when we were timing 4 PLLs or sth? or 3? Faz did them faster Luke Bruce turns crazy fast, but not the fastest.

Edit: I think it was J, L, U and U, and he could sub 5 but Faz could sub 4. Might be wrong.

 

[Godmil]

If he was averaging 9.5 tps he would be getting sub-6 official averages. More like 6.5-7 tps.

Yes, you're right, I didn't mean he generally averages 9.5, I was just meaning, it's been shown that he can average 9.5 for a full solve.

 

[Escher]

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