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Which cuber has done the most contribution to Cubing?

Which cuber has done the most contribution to Cubing?

  • Lars Petrus

    Votes: 11 12.5%
  • Tony Fisher

    Votes: 6 6.8%
  • Jessica Fridrich

    Votes: 50 56.8%
  • Robert Yau

    Votes: 16 18.2%
  • Nathon Wilson

    Votes: 5 5.7%
  • Dylan Wang

    Votes: 33 37.5%
  • Phillip Lewicki

    Votes: 8 9.1%
  • Bob Burton

    Votes: 8 9.1%
  • Lucas Garron

    Votes: 11 12.5%
  • Rowe Hessler

    Votes: 3 3.4%
  • Daniel Karnaukh

    Votes: 2 2.3%
  • Graham Siggins

    Votes: 5 5.7%
  • Roman Strakhov

    Votes: 4 4.5%
  • Kian Mansour

    Votes: 16 18.2%
  • Jayden McNeill

    Votes: 14 15.9%
  • Feliks Zemdegs

    Votes: 54 61.4%
  • Sarah Strong

    Votes: 2 2.3%
  • Kit Clement

    Votes: 11 12.5%
  • Oskar Van Deventer

    Votes: 2 2.3%
  • Others

    Votes: 23 26.1%

  • Total voters
    88

GenTheThief

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3) Dylan Wang a.k.a. J perm- most famous and subscribed YouTube channel
Just saying, TheMaoShia was the first cubing channel to hit 1 million subscribers in 2016 although hasn't uploaded in 2 years, and Cuby has 2.91 million subscribers and is still active.

Chris Tran.
the first guy to come up with a good clock
From what I understand the angstrom clock is total garbage. Qiyi was the first company to make a good OTB clock.
But I agree that Chris was a super important part of modern cubing hardware. He was also really important in the early popularization of ZBLL back in the 2010 era.

My others:
Erno Rubik,
Ryan Heise
Chris Hardwick, Stephan Pochmann, and Ron van Bruchem.

I find it hard to nominate anyone in modern cubing history to have contributed the most to cubing, when the contributions were method fine-tuning rather than complete development.
 

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Just saying, TheMaoShia was the first cubing channel to hit 1 million subscribers in 2016 although hasn't uploaded in 2 years, and Cuby has 2.91 million subscribers and is still active.


From what I understand the angstrom clock is total garbage. Qiyi was the first company to make a good OTB clock.
But I agree that Chris was a super important part of modern cubing hardware. He was also really important in the early popularization of ZBLL back in the 2010 era.

My others:
Erno Rubik,

Chris Hardwick, Stephan Pochmann, and Ron van Bruchem.

I find it hard to nominate anyone in modern cubing history to have contributed the most to cubing, when the contributions were method fine-tuning rather than complete development.
Gilles Roux?
 

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What do you mean by contribute?

To me the term contribute requires them to of made something that changes cubing be it software, methods, or WCA related.

So that means big youtubers don't really count. Almost the entirety of popular cubing videos on youtube aren't contributing anything new (unboxings and reviews have existed for a very long time and it is rare to see anything new (cyoubx's discussion of hardware isn't the same old stuff you have seen for like 12+ years)). Max Park has broken a lot of WRs but hasn't contributed with anything directly (true some might be inspired because of him).



when you consider a bunch of fundamental things over looked like hardware, WCA regs, alg optimisations there is a lot of stuff that goes somewhat uncredited or at least gets forgotten in a few years. Since young cubers aren't super interested in those parts of cubing.
 

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Just saying, TheMaoShia was the first cubing channel to hit 1 million subscribers in 2016 although hasn't uploaded in 2 years, and Cuby has 2.91 million subscribers and is still active.

Ummmmmmmmmmm can you speak Spanish because I can't JKKKK
Thanks for introducing a couple of new channels BUT J perm still has TUTORIAL with UNBOXINGS with speaking English so that's how I thought
 

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I agree too. Erno Rubik could have done much more contributions to cubing. He should have been more active in cubing and pushing the boundaries, rather than running a company and just making profits.
I think that it’s great that he ran a very successful company. He deserved all the money that he made, and he is the one who created the cube after all, so you can’t really criticize that.
 

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I think that it’s great that he ran a very successful company. He deserved all the money that he made, and he is the one who created the cube after all, so you can’t really criticize that.
He could have done much more, and done what the WCA did much earlier?

After the one world championship in 198x, there was no followup, there was no community buildup worldwide, or good speedcube designs, just Rubik running his company and selling more of the 1-2TPSmaxable 3x3s, Although I am not complaining, but he could have helped cubing grow and especially speedcubing grow, if he had the will to do it.
 

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He could have done much more, and done what the WCA did much earlier?

After the one world championship in 198x, there was no followup, there was no community buildup worldwide, or good speedcube designs, just Rubik running his company and selling more of the 1-2TPSmaxable 3x3s, Although I am not complaining, but he could have helped cubing grow and especially speedcubing grow, if he had the will to do it.
While I agree Erno Rubik certainly could have done more to grow cubing, what he did do was so much more important that anyone in the poll. If all of the people in the poll were never born, cubing would still most likely exist. You can't say the same about Erno Rubik.
 

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Seems to me the obvious choice is Marc Waterman, and he isn't even on the list.
He and is group totally dominated cubing from 1983 to 1989 and produced more advancements than any other single group.
True, I hope all the corner first variants and waterman method should enter back into the cubing scene and be adopted by fast solvers.
 

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So this is a list of important figures in method development. Not in order of importance but in historical order. Influence will be included at the end.

1. Waterman => as @efattah said this was the first major development of an advanced corners first method. The method was also published with a full alg set. On top of this Watermen was a very success cuber. This is the first widely available method due to publishing*, something that becomes very important in the 1990s.

2. Frederich => This is pretty self explanatory. Creator of an extremely popular method but more importantly made the method widely available online leading to it's growth. It was a relatively simple method which made it ideal for learning. Big4 Method

3. Lars Petrus => Like Frederich Lars made his method widely available online. This was also a large step in fewest move methods with implementation of blockbuilding and the preorienting of edges. Big4 Method

4. Ryan Heise => Probably the most significant advancement in advance fewest moves methods. Heise was a completely intuitive method with non-linear blockbuilding leading to simultaneous edge orientation and permutation. Most importantly it standardize commutators and conjugates which becomes important in 3BLD. He also creates HTA which is a human viable version of computer optimal solving. This also is the first orient first method with implementation of domino reduction,now a standard in FMC. The Heise methpd took on a cult following achieving 17 second averages.

5. Gilles Roux => The creator of the Roux method a hybrid of corners first and blockbuild. An additional note is that he was able to take advantage of improvements of hardware. He also contributed greatly to fewest moves with Roux and NMLL. Gilles was also the most successful user of the method he created getting 12 second averages. Big4 Method

6. Zbigniew Zboroski => Creator of the ZZ and ZB method. ZZ implemented EO first and genreduction which was quite significant. More than this ZBLS/ZBLL was a massive development in alg sets, probably the most important. ZB created a significant buzz of possibly being the single best method, although wasn't fully realized due to the intimidating alg count. This being said many people have learned full ZBLL but are most used in combination with ZZ/Petrus. Big4 Method.

7. @shadowslice e => From 2006-2015 there was a significant drought in method development. Although there were methods purposed none stood out as significant/had any following. Shadowslice spured the modern renaissance of method development. Created several advanced method which show significant potential and implemented very advanced technique not really seen since Waterman. Creator of SSC, M-CELL, Briggs, and later 42. A true legend in modern method development.

8. @efattah => Another very important figure in advanced method development. He has been the only person to systematically investigate and improve upon a 'historical/extinct'. Developed Very large alg sets for LMCF and WaterRoux.

9. @Imam Alam => A fairly overlook and underrated method developer. Created advanced method 2GB and HSC which( 2GB ) implemented lossless blockbuilding. Very very good methods for FMC especially due to openness and flexibility.

10. @Athefre => Again a pretty underrated method developer. Creator of the MI3 method which is a sort of advanced version of M-CELL. He developed NMLL, A3, ACMLL, NMCLL, and advanced complex blockbuilding techniques.

11. @Devagio => creator of YruRU and Mehta method both of which are advanced method that have recently exploded in popularity. Mehta specifically has seen massive development over a very short period of time and has surpassed Petrus in popularity making it a member of the now Big5 Methods.

The most influential devs imo would be 1) shadowslice e 2) Frederich 3) Waterman and an honorable mention to Heise. Shadowslice e has had the greatest influence on modern method development spurring the modern advance renaissance of method development. This is in addition to creating several high potential methods. Frederich is a pretty safe bet due to creating most popular method to date as well as making the method widely available online. Waterman is last pretty much the same as @efattah has said above. Creator of the first advance methods, first published method, and one of the fastest cubers in the dark ages.

Disclaimer. I may have gotten a bit of the history wrong so feel free to correct me.

Key
* I may have exaggerated the reach of the publishing of his method.
 

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While not strictly a 'cuber' , the influence of Daqing Bao ( of Dayan ) on hardware design was significant. The basic 3x3 was almost unchanged for 30+ years, his novel design led to many advances is a short period of time, with records tumbling and speedcubing gaining attention and popularity.
 

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While I agree Erno Rubik certainly could have done more to grow cubing, what he did do was so much more important that anyone in the poll. If all of the people in the poll were never born, cubing would still most likely exist. You can't say the same about Erno Rubik.
And this is the smocking gun in the discussion. Good point!. While many have contributed to the cube development AFTER it was invented Erno deserves the utmost respect for his discovery of the original concept of the 3x3 cube. It has been truly remarkable how far some of our community has taken and extended & developed these ideas tough!!! ...Which is of course the idea of this thread!
 

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And this is the smocking gun in the discussion. Good point!. While many have contributed to the cube development AFTER it was invented Erno deserves the utmost respect for his discovery of the original concept of the 3x3 cube. It has been truly remarkable how far some of our community has taken and extended & developed these ideas tough!!! ...Which is of course the idea of this thread!
That and all of the wonderful lawsuits :)
 
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