WF3C/3AM/V-Method (2x2)

[That0newe1rdo]

Hullo !
I was thinking of a new method, when i thought to try apply my kind of bad method to a different event - 2x2 !
This method, unlike the 3x3 version, i think has potential to be world class.
Heres an over view of the steps of the most advanced version :
1 - make a solved V or solved layer minus 1
2 - Do one alg to solve the whole thing.

The easier versions of this method split this in 2 by adding a setup to this.

Requirements before learning how to do this method :
1 - LBL you need to know this as you could sometimes make a layer when making a V

Pros of this method :
- Look ahead easier
- 1 looking can be done more commonly as a solved V can occur in solves.

Cons :
- alot of algs needed for advanved in theory (these have not been developed yet)
- not worth it as a method if you only learn the easiest version.
- Recog is hard in theory.

Thanks !
Let me know your opinion on this method, or if its already been invented !
3AM is because i first thought of this at 3 am.
All Pros and Cons are subject to change, this method has not been developed enough to know for sure about these.

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

isn't this like T-EG (it was called something like that)

 

[SpeakCuba]

isn't this like T-EG (it was called something like that)

I believe it is called TCLL.

 

[That0newe1rdo]

Idk i dont like looking at methods before trying to make one cause it ruins the fun.

 

[SpeakCuba]

Idk i dont like looking at methods before trying to make one cause it ruins the fun.

TCLL is indeed used by some world class cubers.

 

[That0newe1rdo]

TCLL is indeed used by some world class cubers.

Is it the exact same ?
Pls say no

 

[SpeakCuba]

Is it the exact same ?
Pls say no

I believe it is. Here’s a description:

Twisty CLL is an advanced version of CLL where one corner can be oriented incorrectly in your layer. The corner twists are called TCLL + and TCLL -. TCLL + is when the corner faces you, and TCLL - is when the corner faces to the right

 

[That0newe1rdo]

I believe it is. Here’s a description:

Twisty CLL is an advanced version of CLL where one corner can be oriented incorrectly in your layer. The corner twists are called TCLL + and TCLL -. TCLL + is when the corner faces you, and TCLL - is when the corner faces to the right

Oh.

I think its slightly different then cause in this method the corner can either be in the Top Right or Bottom Right instead of just the Bottom right (this is if you put the corner above its relative slot if its not in it already)

So basically you insert the corner whilst solving the puzzle in my method whilst in that it sounds like you orient a corner whilst solving the puzzle

 

[eeeeeeeee]

this is just one look last slot which is already in the big 2x2 alg sheet

 

[abunickabhi]

This is just TCLL

 

[OtaMota]

isn't this like T-EG

I believe it is called TCLL.

This is just TCLL

No this is actually LS. It was invented in 2017 by Will Callan (if not earlier by someone else).

1 - make a solved V or solved layer minus 1
2 - Do one alg to solve the whole thing.

This description describes LS perfectly.

this is just one look last slot which is already in the big 2x2 alg sheet

Correct

This method is already used by top solvers.

 

[That0newe1rdo]

Darn it.

Still had fun making it tho ig

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

sorry to ruin the fun, but actually all the algs are already invented

There is, TCLL+, TCLL-, LS, TEG-1 (TCLL+ and TCLL-, A-B, the A-B sets are because each corner twisted in and eg-1 layer is unique, unlike cll and eg-1, where you can twist a corner on any of the 4 places and still have the same case (idk if this makes sense sorry)), TEG-2 (pretty self explanatory, tcll+ and tcll- on an eg-2 layer ), LSEG-1, LSEG-2

its a whole ton of algs tho lol

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

you can find all the algs here btw if anyone needs them lol

Best 2x2 Algs

docs.google.com

 

[That0newe1rdo]

sorry to ruin the fun, but actually all the algs are already invented

There is, TCLL+, TCLL-, LS, TEG-1 (TCLL+ and TCLL-, A-B, the A-B sets are because each corner twisted in and eg-1 layer is unique, unlike cll and eg-1, where you can twist a corner on any of the 4 places and still have the same case (idk if this makes sense sorry)), TEG-2 (pretty self explanatory, tcll+ and tcll- on an eg-2 layer ), LSEG-1, LSEG-2

its a whole ton of algs tho lol

Yh its fine, that will happen alot when you get into method making.

The amount of algs would probably of made me not fully invested into it since i dont have the time gen that much algs

 

[Cubist-Guitar]

Hullo !
I was thinking of a new method, when i thought to try apply my kind of bad method to a different event - 2x2 !
This method, unlike the 3x3 version, i think has potential to be world class.
Heres an over view of the steps of the most advanced version :
1 - make a solved V or solved layer minus 1
2 - Do one alg to solve the whole thing.

The easier versions of this method split this in 2 by adding a setup to this.

Requirements before learning how to do this method :
1 - LBL you need to know this as you could sometimes make a layer when making a V

Pros of this method :
- Look ahead easier
- 1 looking can be done more commonly as a solved V can occur in solves.

Cons :
- alot of algs needed for advanved in theory (these have not been developed yet)
- not worth it as a method if you only learn the easiest version.
- Recog is hard in theory.

Thanks !
Let me know your opinion on this method, or if its already been invented !
3AM is because i first thought of this at 3 am.
All Pros and Cons are subject to change, this method has not been developed enough to know for sure about these.

Congrats! As others have said, you have just developed LS, which has top level success and genned algs

 

[That0newe1rdo]

Congrats! As others have said, you have just developed LS, which has top level success and genned algs

Yh i mean ig i didnt look online for any other methods or help, so idc im calling this a win.

Afterall, I invented a world class method (although already made) entirely based off a previous method ive made and nothing else.

 

[OtaMota]

Making 2x2 methods is a lost cause. The event is so optimized to the point that all the optimal methods are already found.

 

[That0newe1rdo]

Making 2x2 methods is a lost cause. The event is so optimized to the point that all the optimal methods are already found.

Yeah true.
Maybe i should try 4x4 next.

 

[OtaMota]

Yeah true.
Maybe i should try 4x4 next.

Yeah, that would be good, there’s honestly a lot of potential there I feel