WCA banned him for 2 years!

[the_chad]

Ogłoszone przez Sebastiano Tronto, piątek, 27 stycznia 2023 08:37 CET

Dear WCA community,
The Disciplinary Committee has just concluded an investigation on a case of cheating in 3x3x3 Multi-Blind. The competitor was found guilty and we are convinced that this behavior extends to prior competitions as well. As a result, they have been banned for 2 years and some of their results have been changed to DNF.
Since this competitor is relatively well-known in the community, still holding multiple national records (unaffected by our investigation), the WDC decided to make the report for this investigation public. The intention is to explain the reasons behind our decision and give you some insight on how the Committee works.
The report can be found here.
Best regards,
Sebastiano Tronto,
On behalf of the WCA Disciplinary Committee

A cuber just got a 2 year ban for cheating by peeking under the blindfold. All of his blind solves since comp X were DNFed.o_Oo_O

 

[NmeCuber]

I read all the evidence and I think the wca made the right decision.

 

[ProStar]

I think it’s a good decision

 

[Zacian1516]

shocking

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

Yay now we know @the_chad is not from Kepler-452B but from Poland

 

[Cuber987]

shocking

 

[UncleFrank]

I just watched the video last week on The Biggest Cheaters in Cubing History, and now we have to add another one.
Sad.

 

[uemin]

I would have thought that the sight blocker would be enough to prevent this kind of cheating

 

[UncleFrank]

I would have thought that the sight blocker would be enough to prevent this kind of cheating

If you watch the videos linked in the report, you can see there are times the judge(s) aren't holding the sight blocker correctly, too far away from him and/or too high, and he's moving around a lot, too, as if he's trying to see around the sight blocker.

 

[Thom S.]

all I'm going to say is at least one very experienced cuber DMed me on facebook to say this investigation undermines the credibility of the WDC itself.

Why does the defendant say something along this line in every, EVERY internet drama of the recent years?

 

[NmeCuber]

Wow, did he actually reference @abunickhabi in that? It said Abhijeet was unrepredictable.

 

[Arcanist]

In the appeal:
"If the ban stays at two years, I can promise I will come back in 2025 and break the Indian
MBLD NR with a harmonica holder, just to make a point."
LMAO

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

In the appeal:
"If the ban stays at two years, I can promise I will come back in 2025 and break the Indian
MBLD NR with a harmonica holder, just to make a point."
LMAO

I saw that too lol, I actually really hope it happens. I kinda agree with the guy that his punishment is a bit harsh, even if he cheated.

 

[Cuber987]

I saw that too lol, I actually really hope it happens. I kinda agree with the guy that his punishment is a bit harsh, even if he cheated.

Same

 

[ProStar]

I don’t think the punishment was harsh at all. In all competitive activities, including sports, cheating is very much looked down upon. Cheating in sports via performance enhancing drugs usually results in a multi year ban, as well as removal of all results not proven to be 100% legit. If the WDC was too lenient then people would start cheating all the time. This punishment shows that the WCA is harsh on cheaters but still willing to give a second chance eventually. I know almost everyone is 8-16 on this forum, but 2 years really isn’t that long of a time.

And by all means, I’d love to see him break the record in 2025, but it’s not right for him to just say sorry and immediately come back.

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

I don’t think the punishment was harsh at all. In all competitive activities, including sports, cheating is very much looked down upon. Cheating in sports via performance enhancing drugs usually results in a multi year ban, as well as removal of all results not proven to be 100% legit. If the WDC was too lenient then people would start cheating all the time. This punishment shows that the WCA is harsh on cheaters but still willing to give a second chance eventually. I know almost everyone is 8-16 on this forum, but 2 years really isn’t that long of a time.

And by all means, I’d love to see him break the record in 2025, but it’s not right for him to just say sorry and immediately come back.

You definitely have a point.

 

[ProStar]

I would ask you read chapter 4 of my appeal - even if you believe I cheated MBLD, there's actual evidence of my 3bld results being legitimate that the WDC never looked at. They removed 5 rounds of MBLD, some 4-5 rounds of 5bld, 8 rounds of 4bld.....and 38 rounds of 3bld - without ever investigating 3bld at all.

Admittedly I haven’t looked that far into the actual investigation; I’ve read everything briefly but mostly taken the WDC’s word for it. If it’s true that there is irrefutable evidence that some of the rounds they removed were indeed legitimate, then I think it’d be fair to not remove those rounds and only remove recent proven cheated results and any questionable/unproven results.

Also considering I never confessed and still maintain my innocence, me seeing sorry or expressing remorse wouldn't be very logical, would it?

Yes; I was merely stating as part of why I thought the punishment was fair that a simple apology or confession imo wouldn’t mean that all punishment should be removed

 

[ProStar]

Yes, you and everyone else in general has mostly taken the WDC's word for it lol - which was always going to happen, which is why I wish they'd waited till the appeal process completed before making the report public, considering I informed them I was appealing (and filed a first version of the appeal before they even released the report).

Yes, it is perhaps unfortunate that people don’t take in all the evidence and arguments for themselves. If I have the time to do so, I will do my best to thoroughly read/watch everything in both the report and the appeal.

Almost all of my results are unproven - I literally never film official solves or ask anyone to film me (ofc I've never forbidden people from filming, I'm not hiding anything), including for my actual main events (sq1 and clock) - the only videos of me solving officially (my clock NRs) are people that filmed me without my knowledge, or when I was visible in the background of someone's video (3bld from this comp). Being on camera adds extra pressure, I'm not a big fan of it.

That’s totally fair. I think it’s completely reasonable to not want to film your solves, especially with something like BLD. The fact that you don’t record your solves I don’t think is a legitimate reason to assume cheating on its own (that would be similar to assuming the 3x3 3.47 was fake). However, if someone is proven to have cheated (again, I’m going off of the WDC’s results, and have not had time to have an opinion of my own on the matter), it seems rather negligent to assume that they did all other results legitimately.

I think that you are right that I cannot truly speak on the matter until I’ve looked at everything for myself rather than taking the WCA’s word for it, so I won’t say anything more for now.

 

[abunickabhi]

The ban is ending soon finally.

India will have a well deserved all rounder back in action soon.