Waffle's Roux Tutorial

[miniGOINGS]

hold U layer with right thumb on FRU and index on BRU
hold D layer with left thumb on FLD and middle on BLD

perform Dw and while doing that push on BL with the left index and then D'

this way you still have the left ring for the M trigger.

Ok, I'll look into using that.

 

[waffle=ijm]

wait wait

better yet do what I posted but hold BRU with you middle right finger.

This way you can do regular M trigger too.

 

[miniGOINGS]

wait wait

better yet do what I posted but hold BRU with you middle right finger.

This way you can do regular M trigger too.

You do M by reaching over top of your middle finger? Wouldn't that restrict U movement?

 

[waffle=ijm]

no no
with the way I described
You can M - with right index
You can M' - with left Ring

since when do you use E except in LSE with E2 M(') E2

 

[miniGOINGS]

no no
with the way I described
You can M - with right index
You can M' - with left Ring

since when do you use E except in LSE with E2 M(') E2

I'm just thinking, wouldn't it take a while to switch to that position though?

 

[waffle=ijm]

no...I do it quickly enough,....

 

[jms_gears1]

i like doing for the dot case:
M2 z E M2 E
it works rather well if you have your R index finger on URB and your ring finger on DRB then move the E slice with your thumb,

its how i naturally hold the cubew anyway so it works for me.

and @waffle, i think you should make a seperate roux tutorial for the people who need to get better at roux not just for ppl who are trying to learn it

 

[Johannes91]

And whst is your move count for the second block when you go fast?

12-13 is my average move count...I think...

Wow!
You're pretty efficient!^^
Could you make a more detailed tutorial for the second block that shows all of your tricks?

Optimal solvers average ~10 moves and can show you as many tricks as you want... What's so special about youtube videos?

 

[waffle=ijm]

And whst is your move count for the second block when you go fast?

12-13 is my average move count...I think...

Wow!
You're pretty efficient!^^
Could you make a more detailed tutorial for the second block that shows all of your tricks?

Optimal solvers average ~10 moves and can show you as many tricks as you want... What's so special about youtube videos?

worst case is 14 if I remember correctly..

 

[Johannes91]

worst case is 14 if I remember correctly..

That's correct, but what about it? My point is that I don't understand why so many beginners want to learn from youtube videos and only from youtube videos. If they want to get better at cubing, that's definitely not the only or best way to learn.

Maybe they just want to imitate <insert cool cuber here>, I don't know.

 

[waffle=ijm]

sorry, I misread your post.

It is best that everyone should learn some parts for themselves, I guess.

 

[jms_gears1]

i think you misunderstand what i meant,

for one i dont only learn from vids, for the most part i like watching other roux solvers solve and how they do it.

as well as diffrent ways to build the blocks such as matts blocks, a lot of the times,explaining something through text followed by an acompanying video, is the best way of explaining something

i think the best way to learn, tricks, is to go over FMC roux solves and see how the blocks are built, then theres my thread for f2b

so as for the vids i wanted waffle to make i was talking more about the guide for sub 20 for noobs
here:
http://rouxcentral.forummotion.com/things-about-roux-f1/getting-sub-20-for-noobs-using-roux-t11.htm

 

[waffle=ijm]

What I said in my last post

I don't see the point in making new videos about more advanced steps...what I say in my tutorial is all I ever do in my solves. I just look ahead more than you and probably turn faster. That's all. And all of that can be improved by yourself.

 

[Tiw]

After 3 or 2 days studying of these nice tables, I noticed that all "algs" are VERY intuitive, I can do the R block in about 16-17 moves.
But now I have the same Problem with step 4, I'm about 18-19 moves and I don't know how I can improve. I think optimization of 4a isn't a good idea for speedcubing.

 

[waffle=ijm]

After 3 or 2 days studying of these nice tables, I noticed that all "algs" are VERY intuitive, I can do the R block in about 16-17 moves.
But now I have the same Problem with step 4, I'm about 18-19 moves and I don't know how I can improve. I think optimization of 4a isn't a good idea for speedcubing.

Optimize. Recognition will come with time.
4a is easy when you get the hang of it. Optimize it to make it faster.

 

[Tiw]

Can you tell me the move count for 4a,b,c?
At the moment I have 7 ; 7 ; 4 in Stm.

 

[waffle=ijm]

I don't have the move count for those.

please PM Johannes91 about move counts

 

[Tiw]

Okay, I do.
Do you use Gilles' table of optimization of step 4a?

 

[miniGOINGS]

My average movecount for step 4 is 14.8 moves I believe.

 

[Tiw]

Not bad! And how many moves do you need for the sub-steps?