Theoretical [number]-style blindfolded solving methods

[pyraaron]

He’s just upset he arrogantly presented 5-style and made up claims for years before finally caving to the negative feedback.

That said, you definitely should have done a little bit of research and read over previous information to know stuff like even-number styles can’t exist lol.

I understand this situation, but I'm quite confused how someone could claim a method to themselves. I am quite stupid on the side of puzzle theory, so I thought I could make my research here instead of some nonsense documents.

On a second note I just asked questions about a method, now I am a bit confused why I am now being pressured about this.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

Thank you for defending my side.

no one is defending anyone or taking sides here. I believe that exactly the opposite happened.

maybe abunickabhi is just upset about the criticism over the years and even concerned because what rivalry and stress can do to people like the Professional Chess Player that was found dead a few days back.

we should agree that we all need to show more love compassion and education in our world because there are too many people fighting each other already.

I don't have anything against you, and find most of your messages interesting/normal, but in my opinion, you should not be a moderator anymore after this.

Everyone makes mistakes, let's not go to extremes. after all who is going to move threads to the right place? you?

 

[Deleted member 36445]

I understand this situation, but I'm quite confused how someone could claim a method to themselves. I am quite stupid on the side of puzzle theory, so I thought I could make my research here instead of some nonsense documents.

On a second note I just asked questions about a method, now I am a bit confused why I am now being pressured about this.

4style is impossible because of puzzle parity. maybe on speedsolving.com/wiki you can find more about it
5style and higher is not feasible because of high alg count unfurtunately. abunickhabhi proved that

please don't feel discouraged or pressured to explain your ideas

have fun

 

[guelda]

Everyone makes mistakes, let's not go to extremes. after all who is going to move threads to the right place? you?

You are right, I may have overreacted to what felt to me like an unnecessary request to someone who only asked a question and did not have the whole context of the 5-style history on this forum (and still does not btw).

@abunickabhi Maybe you did not want to "bring back the heat" here, I can understand that for your own wellness and did not intend to be rude, sorry for that. Even if 5-style is not realistically usable, I respect the fact that you researched/developed/organized it all, what a work!

Also it occurs frequently that someone opens a topic for something already discussed, or for a method already created, and I agree it is not that useful, but let's face it: this also makes the forum active/alive somehow. And "we" can point "them" to some links or forum pages, and maybe bring back new ideas on old topics.

 

[Kami]

I don't have anything against you, and find most of your messages interesting/normal, but in my opinion, you should not be a moderator anymore after this.

Seconded.

 

[OtaMota]

Maybe 4style could be possible if you accept that you swap 2 pieces of the other type while doing the 4style alg, similar, to how OP could be considered a 2style method in some sense.

 

[abunickabhi]

Apologies if you feel pressurized to discuss ideas here.

You are free to discuss this puzzle theory idea for sure !

 

[abunickabhi]

To me, this topic is related to blindsolving methods, therefore I posted it under blindsolving discussion.

Fair enough, this thread can belong to blindsolving discussion as well

 

[xyzzy]

Maybe 4style could be possible if you accept that you swap 2 pieces of the other type while doing the 4style alg, similar, to how OP could be considered a 2style method in some sense.

Given that blders are learning parity algs that, effectively, solve three corner targets (in some restricted positions), it seems that 4-style may not be entirely out of reach.

 

[abunickabhi]

You are right, I may have overreacted to what felt to me like an unnecessary request to someone who only asked a question and did not have the whole context of the 5-style history on this forum (and still does not btw).

@abunickabhi Maybe you did not want to "bring back the heat" here, I can understand that for your own wellness and did not intend to be rude, sorry for that. Even if 5-style is not realistically usable, I respect the fact that you researched/developed/organized it all, what a work!

Also it occurs frequently that someone opens a topic for something already discussed, or for a method already created, and I agree it is not that useful, but let's face it: this also makes the forum active/alive somehow. And "we" can point "them" to some links or forum pages, and maybe bring back new ideas on old topics.

Point noted.

An active timeless discussion without any biases can take place on the forum.

I understand that I may have come across as bitter and rude due to my past experiences developing UF5 algset and I plan to internalise and continue the healthy discussion.

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

There are better avenues to be curious

Higher order commutators and complexity due to it can go to puzzle theory catagory.

This is in no way related to speedsolving and/or blindsolving.

what?

he’s talking about blindsolving
he’s also talking about speedsolving
how is he not talking about neither?

guys hear me out… what about 7-style

 

[abunickabhi]

7-style is good for FMC maybe, if there are cancellations. But just inserting 3-cycle comms is better.

 

[eeeeeeeee]

what?

he’s talking about blindsolving
he’s also talking about speedsolving
how is he not talking about neither?

guys hear me out… what about 7-style

ok then 11-style for edges and 7-style for corners
2 algs for 3x3

 

[abunickabhi]

ok then 11-style for edges and 7-style for corners
2 algs for 3x3

Does not work that way, because of cycle breaks, flips and 2 swaps.

So a pure 2-comm 3x3 solve will be <1% of the scrambles. I do have to compute and verify the exact number, but intuitively it feels less.

 

[guelda]

Regarding 5-style, I was wondering this basic question: not sure if this could be useful but what about using setup moves for 5-style comms? Like it is done for Eka/Orozco, which are just easy 3-style sets and setup moves.
I suppose it is faster to use 2 comms instead of setting up and do 1 big 5-style comm?

 

[abunickabhi]

Regarding 5-style, I was wondering this basic question: not sure if this could be useful but what about using setup moves for 5-style comms? Like it is done for Eka/Orozco, which are just easy 3-style sets and setup moves.
I suppose it is faster to use 2 comms instead of setting up and do 1 big 5-style comm?

5turbo was actively developed in 2022 by a few people,

Turns out it is not effectively in gaining speed and fluency or act as a good enough transition method to UF5.

The philosophy is to always use good 3 style algs and in rare cases use to super fast UF5 algs (like 4 mover 5 mover etc) if we spot them in an actual solve.

You can read about the slow paced 5turbo development history in the UF5 discord server. I think Samuel Baird helped in initiating the idea and getting started.

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

5turbo was actively developed in 2022 by a few people,

Turns out it is not effectively in gaining speed and fluency or act as a good enough transition method to UF5.

The philosophy is to always use good 3 style algs and in rare cases use to super fast UF5 algs (like 4 mover 5 mover etc) if we spot them in an actual solve.

“spot” them
but you are blindfolded lol

 

[abunickabhi]

“spot” them
but you are blindfolded lol

Spot them during tracing and the one pass memo phase,

Some faster solvers think about the execution at the back of their mind while tracing out the pieces.

For example, which cycle break will give me a faster comm

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

Spot them during tracing and the one pass memo phase,

Some faster solvers think about the execution at the back of their mind while tracing out the pieces.

For example, which cycle break will give me a faster comm

it was a pun

 

[abunickabhi]

Can this thread be closed as it seems to be pointless