The Color Neutrality Thread!

[Kirjava]

how about "does the first step of his/her method on whatever damn side they want to"?

Getting closer ^_^

 

[HelpCube]

how about "does the first step of his/her method on whatever damn side they want to"?

Getting closer ^_^

i think i'll use that one on the main post for definition

 

[blakedacuber]

im colour nuetral and haven't practiced since i was avg455ish now sub 22 lol i did an avg of 5 wth each color and my worst was orang with a 23 avg

 

[dillonbladez]

how about "does the first step of his/her method on whatever damn side they want to"?

Getting closer ^_^

Colour Neutral = The ability to do the first step of your method, on any side you choose to, without any significantly different times. (Eg, times on Blue block/cross = time on yellow block/cross, give or take 0.5 - 1 second)?

Edit:
Awesome if i'm right, lol. I'm not even colour neutral

 

[maggotcuber]

and im the worst on green crosses. i dont know why though, maybe my hatred for dan browns method psychologically slows down my green crosses.
or maybe im part plant, i absorb red and reflect green.

dont hate! he taught me how to be color neutral!

 

[penguin009]

I was always color neutral without knowing it... nonetheless I still suck at cubing

 

[HelpCube]

and im the worst on green crosses. i dont know why though, maybe my hatred for dan browns method psychologically slows down my green crosses.
or maybe im part plant, i absorb red and reflect green.

dont hate! he taught me how to be color neutral!

same here, i am the slowest on green. When i am teaching someone how to solve the cube but they already know some of the green side, i try to get them to white/color neutral.

 

[Kirjava]

not being restricted to any fixed colours or groups of them in any parts of the method

 

[HelpCube]

not being restricted to any fixed colours or groups of them in any parts of the method

thats a good one too lol

Mind if i use that in the main post instead?

 

[Hadley4000]

I am neutral on all puzzles except megaminx(But who really is?)

I have been color neutral since the very beginning. I think it has advantages and disadvantages.

Advantage is obvious, you can often times get shorter crosses(Maybe a white cross solver would have a 5 move cross, but there would be a 2 move on blue), and you can sometimes get luckier at X Cross(1x2x2 block of blue/red/yellow perhaps).

The disadvantage, is on solves where it is harder to "Decide" what cross to start on, you can lose time that could be spent looking for the first/second pair.


I don't have any plans on becoming fixed cross.

 

[hawkmp4]

The disadvantage, is on solves where it is harder to "Decide" what cross to start on, you can lose time that could be spent looking for the first/second pair.

I think that's a plus of being opposite colour neutral- having to only scan one additional side gives you a little more time. I'm not colour neutral at all on 3x3, though, so I don't really know.

 

[adfoote]

i dont think im gonna go for 100% CN, i just wanna be sub 30 with a yellow cross, sub 40 with a red/blue/green/orange cross, and sub 25 with a white cross. i might just go back to doing a fixed white cross because i was getting faster before i started this CN thing.

 

[AvidCuber]

i dont think im gonna go for 100% CN, i just wanna be sub 30 with a yellow cross, sub 40 with a red/blue/green/orange cross, and sub 25 with a white cross. i might just go back to doing a fixed white cross because i was getting faster before i started this CN thing.

Well obviously, you won't get faster without practice. I averaged ~26-27 when I decided to become color neutral, and it brought my times back to ~35 for 3-4 weeks. But with practice, now I'm averaging 24-25, and I have not learned any other algs (I'm currently learning full PLL) since before I started being CN.

 

[Kirjava]

i might just go back to doing a fixed white cross because i was getting faster before i started this CN thing.

This explains CN so well.

 

[person123]

im partial cn, its actually quite effective =]

 

[Daniel Wu]

2x2: CN
3x3: Partial CN
4x4: CN for centers, Non CN 3x3
5x5: Partial CN for centers, Non CN 3x3
6x6: Partial CN for centers, Non CN 3x3
7x7: Partial CN for centers, Non CN 3x3
Megaminx: Non CN
Pyraminx: Non CN

Hm.. I never really thought about this, it just kinda happened this way.

 

[maggotcuber]

The disadvantage, is on solves where it is harder to "Decide" what cross to start on, you can lose time that could be spent looking for the first/second pair.

agreed. on some solves i spend t much time on deciding which cross i should start on, because there's either nothing to work with or theres too many goo choices. usually when this happens im stuck doing a badly planned out cross

 

[Tim Major]

Pyraminx: Non CN

Hm.. I never really thought about this, it just kinda happened this way.

Huh? Not colour neutral on Pyra? You've gotta be joking
You might miss so many easier blocks. It's not hard (I promise)

 

[hawkmp4]

Pyraminx: Non CN

Hm.. I never really thought about this, it just kinda happened this way.

Huh? Not colour neutral on Pyra? You've gotta be joking
You might miss so many easier blocks. It's not hard (I promise)

Yeah, CN on pyraminx is easier than 2x2 (less colours), and you'll already CN on that. You'll pick it up quickly

 

[Daniel Wu]

Pyraminx: Non CN

Hm.. I never really thought about this, it just kinda happened this way.

Huh? Not colour neutral on Pyra? You've gotta be joking
You might miss so many easier blocks. It's not hard (I promise)

Yeah, CN on pyraminx is easier than 2x2 (less colours), and you'll already CN on that. You'll pick it up quickly

For oka normally I can get the top block in 3 or less moves non CN. So it's not much of an issue for me. Although the other blocks are sometimes tempting. But if I do a color that I don't usually do, fixing the bottom centers and the last 3 edges are always horrible. I just can't do the bottom layer CN.