The Big Cube OH UWR Thread

even to align the layers once

Yes, even to align the layers once.

You are allowed to use the table in one handed so it isn't abuse, it's just use.
If you used the table it should not count as a solve without the use of the table.
 
Anyone pro occasional table use in a no TA solve care to draw the line between use and abuse?

Perhaps arbitrarily say 1 use of table per solve per layer?

Or would it make more sense to not be allowed to use the table at all?
 
Lets look at it this way, during a blind solve are you allowed to peek to refresh your memo and it still be a true blind solve? No, you're not so why should you be allowed to use the table at all during an OH solve and still say you didn't "really" use the table THAT much so it is not table abuse.. So yeah any use of the table should still be considered TA since how much of a difference it can make, in my opinion that is
 
lol... anybody with a clue about BLD can instantaneously tell that this analogy is just crap, sorry. Peeking under your blindfold at BLD really changes the event completely, because you don't have to memo anymore, and to go faster, you can even use a "BLD method" which is normally not usable by humans who do BLD honestly (that's what Kuti did). Realigning the layers with the table at OH doesn't give such a huge advantage, by far.
 
lol... anybody with a clue about BLD can instantaneously tell that this analogy is just crap, sorry. Peeking under your blindfold at BLD really changes the event completely, because you don't have to memo anymore, and to go faster, you can even use a "BLD method" which is normally not usable by humans who do BLD honestly (that's what Kuti did). Realigning the layers with the table at OH doesn't give such a huge advantage, by far.

I know all about bld and if you were allowed to look mid execution i am quite sure there would not be anywhere near the same amount of dnf's or people would simply get faster times because they would have a faster recollection speed. And the same goes for big cube OH, if you use the table even once if can save a ton of time!
 
Unfortunately you would need to see videos of 2 completely separate realities.
Once you have aligned the layers you can't know for sure how long it would've taken.

I realise there is an average but it can take a while to align multiple layers. I don't think several seconds per table use is out of the question.
 
Both of you are completely missing my point. Whether you use the table or not, solving a big cube OH is still solving a big cube OH, using the table can make it faster but not intrinsically easier. On the other hand, solving a big cube BLD by peeking under the blindfold to memo a couple of pieces, then solving them, then peeking again, and so on, and thus not only having to memo a much smaller amount of info but also being able to make sure that execution mistakes always get corrected, is a trivial challenge which really has nothing to do with a true big BLD solve.
 
Both of you are completely missing my point.

I get your point, I just think I'm looking at it differently.

I'm thinking along the lines of 'I know the memo but am not recalling it very quickly, I can sit here for a few more seconds and it will come to me or I can peek and know right now'.

OH is OH IMO. You can use and 'abuse' the table as much as you want but if you want a different category then stop using the damn table!
 
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