The 3x3 Permutation Example Solve Thread

[acrystal]

Kind of like the 3x3 Example Solve Thread, but Orientation doesn't matter.

Watch this video for reference:

Here is an example on how this goes:

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R' U' L2 U2 F' U2 R2 B L2 U2 F D2 F2 R2 U B2 L2 R B' R D2

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
D2 S2 z2 D // Cross
R U R' U' F' U' F // 1st Pair
B U' B' L U' L' // 2nd Pair
F U F2 L F L' // 3rd Pair
R' U' R // 4th Pair
y2 R' F R' B2 R F' R' B2 R2 U // PLL

The Next Scramble

 

[Martyt7777]

Kind of like the 3x3 Example Solve Thread, but Orientation doesn't matter.

Watch this video for reference:

Here is an example on how this goes:

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R' U' L2 U2 F' U2 R2 B L2 U2 F D2 F2 R2 U B2 L2 R B' R D2

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
D2 S2 z2 D // Cross
R U R' U' F' U' F // 1st Pair
B U' B' L U' L' // 2nd Pair
F U F2 L F L' // 3rd Pair
R' U' R // 4th Pair
y2 R' F R' B2 R F' R' B2 R2 U // PLL

The Next Scramble

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R' F' L' U' F' R U' R2 B U2 F' L2 U2 D2 B2 R2 L2 B' R2 D L2

 Moves 

z2 D L F' D U L2 //cross
F' U R' U2 R F // pair 1
R U L' U2 R' U' L // pair 2 (setup to pair 3)
D L' U L D' // pair 3
U2 L' U' L U L' U' L // pair 4
U2 R' U' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' U R U2 // pll

Next Scramble

 

[acrystal]

Next Scramble

Your link doesn't work, but I found the scram

anyway, I found a sub-30 solution!

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

B2 D2 F2 L' B2 R2 F2 R' B2 U2 R D B U' R2 B U2 F U2

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
U' R D' U' F2 L' // Cross
F2 R' F2 R // 1st Pair
D F U' F' D' // 2nd Pair
B' U B // 4th Pair
y' R2 U' S' U2 S U' R2 U' // PLL

Next

 

[acrystal]

Your link doesn't work, but I found the scram

anyway, I found a sub-30 solution!

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

B2 D2 F2 L' B2 R2 F2 R' B2 U2 R D B U' R2 B U2 F U2

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
U' R D' U' F2 L' // Cross
F2 R' F2 R // 1st Pair
D F U' F' D' // 2nd Pair
B' U B // 4th Pair
y' R2 U' S' U2 S U' R2 U' // PLL

Next

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

D2 B2 R' D F2 R' U' F D' L' F' R2 F B2 U2 D2 F' D2 B D2 R2

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
B' R' L2 D // Cross
B2 R B2 R' // 1st Pair
Uw' R U R' Uw' R U' R' Uw2 // 2nd+3rd Pairs
R U' R2 F R F' // 4th Pair
y2 L' U' L F L' U' L U L F' L2 U L U' // PLL

Next

 

[Renslay]

Next

19-STM Roux.

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R2 U2 R D2 F2 D2 F2 R U2 L U2 R2 F' L2 B' U' L F' D2 U

 Moves 

z' y'
F' E B2 // FB
U R2 r' U' r U' r U' r' R2 // SB
U M' U2 M2 U M // LSE

Next: L' B' R L' F2 U R D B2 U2 R2 B2 R F2 R' D2 L2 D2 F2 L2 F

 

[acrystal]

19-STM Roux.

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R2 U2 R D2 F2 D2 F2 R U2 L U2 R2 F' L2 B' U' L F' D2 U

 Moves 

z' y'
F' E B2 // FB
U R2 r' U' r U' r U' r' R2 // SB
U M' U2 M2 U M // LSE

Next: L' B' R L' F2 U R D B2 U2 R2 B2 R F2 R' D2 L2 D2 F2 L2 F

Woah, that mustve been a lucky solution, right?

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

L' B' R L' F2 U R D B2 U2 R2 B2 R F2 R' D2 L2 D2 F2 L2 F

 Moves 

z // Inspection
R2 S U' L D' // Cross
U R' U2 R // 1st Pair
L' U L // 2nd Pair
F' U2 F // 3rd Pair
y2 R' F R F' R U' R' // 4th Pair
y R' F R' B2 R F' R' B2 R2 U2 // LL

Next

 

[Renslay]

Woah, that mustve been a lucky solution, right?

Nope, not really. FB and SB are generally very short; and if you can catch a CP (like CEOR's CPFB), you will have an automatic CMLL skip; and LSE is again super easy.

Roux generally has a quite low move count, and ignoring orientation cuts it even more drastically.

Next

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R2 B2 D R2 B2 F2 U' B2 F2 R2 D F2 R' F L U B' D' R B' L'

 Moves 

x y
D2 B' F' U' R F2 // FB
U' R' U2 R' U R U2 r U R' // SB
U' M2 U u2 M' u2 M // LSE

Next: B R L2 F L D' L' U R' B R2 D2 F L2 D2 B U2 D2 B2 U2 D2

 

[acrystal]

Nope, not really. FB and SB are generally very short; and if you can catch a CP (like CEOR's CPFB), you will have an automatic CMLL skip; and LSE is again super easy.

Roux generally has a quite low move count, and ignoring orientation cuts it even more drastically.

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R2 B2 D R2 B2 F2 U' B2 F2 R2 D F2 R' F L U B' D' R B' L'

 Moves 

x y
D2 B' F' U' R F2 // FB
U' R' U2 R' U R U2 r U R' // SB
U' M2 U u2 M' u2 M // LSE

Next: B R L2 F L D' L' U R' B R2 D2 F L2 D2 B U2 D2 B2 U2 D2

Does that mean CFOP can also be short?
I also found a 19-STM solution too

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

B R L2 F L D' L' U R' B R2 D2 F L2 D2 B U2 D2 B2 U2 D2

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
R' D' R D' Bw' U2 Bw D' R2 // X-Cross
B2 L' B2 L // 2nd Pair
R' U' R2 U2 R' // 3rd+4th Pairs
U' // PLL Skip

Next

 

[acrystal]

Does that mean CFOP can also be short?
I also found a 19-STM solution too

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

B R L2 F L D' L' U R' B R2 D2 F L2 D2 B U2 D2 B2 U2 D2

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
R' D' R D' Bw' U2 Bw D' R2 // X-Cross
B2 L' B2 L // 2nd Pair
R' U' R2 U2 R' // 3rd+4th Pairs
U' // PLL Skip

Next

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R2 D B2 U R F2 R L2 F' L' B2 R' D2 R' B2 L2 D2 F2 R2 U2 L'

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
D R2 B2 D' L2 // X-Cross
R' U' R // 2nd Pair
U' F2 R' F2 R // 3rd Pair
U F U F' // 4th Pair
y2 R2 D' r U2 r' D R U2 R U // PLL

Next

 

[Renslay]

Next

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R' L2 D R2 B L B U F' L2 D B2 U' B2 U' B2 U R2 D' L2 F2

 Moves 

y z'
r2 D' U' R' r' F // FB
M2 U2 r U R' U2 M U R' // SB
U' M2 U' F2 M F2 M // LSE

Does that mean CFOP can also be short?

Hm, I don't know, it might me more difficult to force a PLL skip.
I think CFOP has a disadvantage here, because essentially you still have to "preserve" the cross, while constantly destroying-restoring it with pair-insertions. But at least OLL skip is for free.

Next: R B L2 F L2 D2 U2 B U2 F' D2 R2 U2 R U2 R' F' D L' F'

 

[acrystal]

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R' L2 D R2 B L B U F' L2 D B2 U' B2 U' B2 U R2 D' L2 F2

 Moves 

y z'
r2 D' U' R' r' F // FB
M2 U2 r U R' U2 M U R' // SB
U' M2 U' F2 M F2 M // LSE

Hm, I don't know, it might me more difficult to force a PLL skip.
I think CFOP has a disadvantage here, because essentially you still have to "preserve" the cross, while constantly destroying-restoring it with pair-insertions. But at least OLL skip is for free.

Next: R B L2 F L2 D2 U2 B U2 F' D2 R2 U2 R U2 R' F' D L' F'

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R B L2 F L2 D2 U2 B U2 F' D2 R2 U2 R U2 R' F' D L' F'

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection 
L D L' F D2 U L2 U2 B2 // X-Cross
L' R' U2 R U' L2 U2 L' // 2nd+3rd Pairs
U2 F U F' // 4th Pair
M2 U M2 U M' U2 M2 U2 M' U2 // PLL

Next

 

[acrystal]

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R B L2 F L2 D2 U2 B U2 F' D2 R2 U2 R U2 R' F' D L' F'

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection 
L D L' F D2 U L2 U2 B2 // X-Cross
L' R' U2 R U' L2 U2 L' // 2nd+3rd Pairs
U2 F U F' // 4th Pair
M2 U M2 U M' U2 M2 U2 M' U2 // PLL

Next

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R' U' F R2 U D F B U F2 R F2 R' U2 B2 R D2 R2 B2 U2 R'

 Moves 

L2 D2 F2 B' D // Cross
B' U2 B // 1st Pair
U' S R' S' // 2nd Pair
F U' F' // 3rd Pair
U' F' U' F // 4th Pair
y R U2 R2 F R F' U2 R' F R F' U // PLL

Next

 

[acrystal]

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R' U' F R2 U D F B U F2 R F2 R' U2 B2 R D2 R2 B2 U2 R'

 Moves 

L2 D2 F2 B' D // Cross
B' U2 B // 1st Pair
U' S R' S' // 2nd Pair
F U' F' // 3rd Pair
U' F' U' F // 4th Pair
y R U2 R2 F R F' U2 R' F R F' U // PLL

Next

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

U2 D2 L2 F2 R' D2 F2 B' U R U2 R' U2 L D2 R F2 L2 F2 U2 R

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
U' F' M x B2 // Cross
M F' M' // 1st Pair
U2 F U F' // 2nd Pair
R B' R' U B // 3rd Pair
y2 L' U' L U L F' L' F U' // PLL

Next

 

[Renslay]

Next

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

D' L2 F' D B L' D' R2 B' D2 L2 B2 U2 F D2 F L2 U2 D' B'

 Moves 

z
B U' L' F D F' // FB
M2 U' R' U2 r' U2 r' U' r // SB
U' M2 U M2 U M' U2 // LSE

Next: R' U2 F2 U2 L' F2 R' B2 L2 U2 B2 L D R' D' F D B' L2 B' D2

 

[acrystal]

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

D' L2 F' D B L' D' R2 B' D2 L2 B2 U2 F D2 F L2 U2 D' B'

 Moves 

z
B U' L' F D F' // FB
M2 U' R' U2 r' U2 r' U' r // SB
U' M2 U M2 U M' U2 // CMLL

You mean LSE/L6E on the last part

 

[Renslay]

You mean LSE/L6E on the last part

Yes, my mistake. Fixed it, thank you.

 

[acrystal]

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

D' L2 F' D B L' D' R2 B' D2 L2 B2 U2 F D2 F L2 U2 D' B'

 Moves 

z
B U' L' F D F' // FB
M2 U' R' U2 r' U2 r' U' r // SB
U' M2 U M2 U M' U2 // LSE

Next: R' U2 F2 U2 L' F2 R' B2 L2 U2 B2 L D R' D' F D B' L2 B' D2

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R' U2 F2 U2 L' F2 R' B2 L2 U2 B2 L D R' D' F D B' L2 B' D2

 Moves 

L D' R' F2 B' U' B D // X-Cross
L' B L U B' // 2nd+3rd Pairs
F' U F // 4th Pair
L' U' L U L F' L' F // PLL

Next

 

[acrystal]

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

R' U2 F2 U2 L' F2 R' B2 L2 U2 B2 L D R' D' F D B' L2 B' D2

 Moves 

L D' R' F2 B' U' B D // X-Cross
L' B L U B' // 2nd+3rd Pairs
F' U F // 4th Pair
L' U' L U L F' L' F // PLL

Next

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

F D2 L2 R2 F U2 B2 U2 R2 B' D' L' U L F R' B2 F U

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
U2 R2 B U B L' U L D' F U' F' L' U2 L D' // X-Cross
U2 F U F' // 4th Pair
M2 U M2 U M' U2 M2 U2 M' U' // LL

Next

 

[Renslay]

Next

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

F2 B R' U' F' D' F' R U B2 L2 U D2 L2 U B2 L2 B2 R2 U2 F

 Moves 

x y
B' D2 M2 U2 F // FB
U R U r' U r2 R U R // SB
U M U' M2 U' F2 M' F2 // LSE

Next: F2 B2 U2 F2 U B R F2 R' D2 F2 U2 L2 U2 B' U2 F2 D2

 

[acrystal]

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

F2 B R' U' F' D' F' R U B2 L2 U D2 L2 U B2 L2 B2 R2 U2 F

 Moves 

x y
B' D2 M2 U2 F // FB
U R U r' U r2 R U R // SB
U M U' M2 U' F2 M' F2 // LSE

Next: F2 B2 U2 F2 U B R F2 R' D2 F2 U2 L2 U2 B' U2 F2 D2

 Twizzle link 

 Setup 

F2 B2 U2 F2 U B R F2 R' D2 F2 U2 L2 U2 B' U2 F2 D2 U

 Moves 

z2 // Inspection
R L U2 B2 // Cross
U' M' B M // 1st Pair
L' U2 L // 2nd Pair
B' R U2 R' U B2 L' B' L // 3rd+4th Pairs
y S R U R' U' R' F R Fw' U' // LL

Next