Egide
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hi guys, does anyone have a good alternative alg for the EP case with W on top?
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The normal alg is already good, can't imagine there's anything better
zaidkhalifa
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allanboss131
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Its called "Lin" there is a tutorial on youtube. I use it and think it could be quite fast. Im super slow cause idc about squan though
Cale S
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I guess I'll share this here too
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Hi, I am recently trying to get good at SQ1 so I tried to remember those algs. I found two kinds of CP algorithms. After doing experiments on them, I still don't know what differences are there. Anyone can help me?
Some CP algs affect the permutation parity and some don't, if that's what you're asking. If you have something like adj-adj CP and parity, instead of doing the usual alg (/0,-3/3,3/-3,0/), you can do the adj-adj parity alg (/-3/-3/-5/-2/4/-4/-2/5/-3/) to influence parity.
The CP+parity algs are usually somewhat longer than the normal CP algs, but if you don't know many of the parity EP algs, this can end up being faster than doing the normal CP algs, then some EP alg(s), then parity. On the flip side, CPP is not so useful if you do know lots of parity EP cases, and you might have to pause to recognise whether you have parity.
(How to determine whether you have parity: check the top and bottom layers to see if they're like a normal PLL on 3×3. If both are or both aren't, then there's no parity. If only one layer is a normal PLL, then there's parity.)
guysensei1
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Are there any cubeshapes that fast people solve inoptimally for better fingertricks?
(Excluding CSP cases)
(Excluding CSP cases)
Yeah
guysensei1
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May i have example(s)?
Lid
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Here is one that I don't solve optimally: /-1,0/2,0/1,0/-4,0/3,0/
guysensei1
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That reminds me, I've been meaning to ask this, is every cubeshape with the bottom left section solved solvable with only / and (x,0)?
Does my question even come across clearly?
Lid
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Yes, if you have a ECEC or CECE block at bottom left.
Mingler_65071
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Yes hello okay so I have starting learning Square-1 and need help memorizing parity and edge orientation. Any tips?
There's already a squan thread, so I assume a mod will merge this post into that one. Anyway, I'm kind of bad at squan so don't take my comments too seriously.
EO: The three main algs you should learn are I-I (1,0/-1,-1/0,1), L-L (1,0/3,0/-1,-1/-3,0/0,1) and 1-1 (1,0/3,0/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/-3,0/-1,0). Notice that these three algs fully preserve cubeshape and none of them move the D layer by more than ±1, so you can just memorise the moves for the U layer and adjust the D layer when necessary.
The L-L alg is almost the same as the adj-adj EP alg, so if you already know adj-adj, you know L-L too!
Parity: Just use CPP lol. I haven't learnt any parity EP algs other than opp-H and H-opp.
qwertycuber
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Does anybody have any good advanced cubeshape tutorials (preferably not videos)? The linked site with the full cubeshape on the beginning of this thread has cut images, and I can't see the full chart.
Lid
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Here is my version of that page: http://hem.bredband.net/_zlv_/rubiks/sq1/sq1-shape-depth.html
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