Speed cubing for people with bad memories

[Magmatic]

I first learned to solve a cube one layer at a time. Then, for fun, I learned Petrus. Yes, I do enjoy it. That was all with an old, slow cube.

But I just ordered a brand new speed cube. And by the time it arrives, I want to pick a new speed cubing method to learn.

These are my requirements:
- I want a method for speed, with finger flicks and stuff like that.
- I don't mind learning something brand new.
- I don't mind using a bit of intuition to solve it. It doesn't have to be the "easy" way.
- And most importantly: I don't want to memorize a lot of algorithms. My memory is terrible.

I'm thinking Roux, with the Pinkie Pie variant. What do you all think?

 

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I first learned to solve a cube one layer at a time. Then, for fun, I learned Petrus. Yes, I do enjoy it. That was all with an old, slow cube.

But I just ordered a brand new speed cube. And by the time it arrives, I want to pick a new speed cubing method to learn.

These are my requirements:
- I want a method for speed, with finger flicks and stuff like that.
- I don't mind learning something brand new.
- I don't mind using a bit of intuition to solve it. It doesn't have to be the "easy" way.
- And most importantly: I don't want to memorize a lot of algorithms. My memory is terrible.

I'm thinking Roux, with the Pinkie Pie variant. What do you all think?

Roux sounds like the best method for you, not Pinkie Pie though, it has a lot of algorithms, vanilla Roux is better, ZZ also doesn't have that many algorithms, and I think (not sure) it gives you a better grasp of the cube.

 

[Deleted member 51471]

I first learned to solve a cube one layer at a time. Then, for fun, I learned Petrus. Yes, I do enjoy it. That was all with an old, slow cube.

But I just ordered a brand new speed cube. And by the time it arrives, I want to pick a new speed cubing method to learn.

These are my requirements:
- I want a method for speed, with finger flicks and stuff like that.
- I don't mind learning something brand new.
- I don't mind using a bit of intuition to solve it. It doesn't have to be the "easy" way.
- And most importantly: I don't want to memorize a lot of algorithms. My memory is terrible.

I'm thinking Roux, with the Pinkie Pie variant. What do you all think?

Pinkie Pie? That's one of the methods with the most algs. Just use Classic roux (42 algs). Another option would be to keep using Petrus or switch to ZZ, and only use OCLL and PLL (28 algs)

 

[mukerflap]

pinkie pie 350 algs

 

[tx789]

Pick Roux or CFOP which ever one you like best. Learning is honestly way easier than touch think it is hard a first.

But if you chunk together moves and track what an f2l pair is doing for all layer algs and drill the algs a lot it is easier. Full OLL/PLL is 57 and 21 algs. You can learn just 2 look to reduce OLL to 9. CMLL is 42 with 2 look also being 9 algs.

 

[ProStar]

I'd recommend Roux, but like others said, just use standard Roux and not Pinkie Pie. Full Roux has 42 algorithms, but you can do it very well with only 9 algorithms

 

[Tabe]

You're using muscle memory for algs not your standard memory. Don't be afraid to learn algs. Most people can't tell you the moves for the algs they do, they just execute them.

 

[Owen Morrison]

I first learned to solve a cube one layer at a time. Then, for fun, I learned Petrus. Yes, I do enjoy it. That was all with an old, slow cube.

But I just ordered a brand new speed cube. And by the time it arrives, I want to pick a new speed cubing method to learn.

These are my requirements:
- I want a method for speed, with finger flicks and stuff like that.
- I don't mind learning something brand new.
- I don't mind using a bit of intuition to solve it. It doesn't have to be the "easy" way.
- And most importantly: I don't want to memorize a lot of algorithms. My memory is terrible.

I'm thinking Roux, with the Pinkie Pie variant. What do you all think?

I think you should stick with Petrus as it doesn't require many algs at all unless you want to be at the top level. If you want to get to the top level you could either stick with Petrus and learn the 492 (I think) ZBLLs, learn CFOP, or learn Roux. You should probably go with either CFOP or Roux because it seems as though you don't want to learn 492 algs.

 

[ProStar]

I think you should stick with Petrus as it doesn't require many algs at all unless you want to be at the top level. If you want to get to the top level you could either stick with Petrus and learn the 492 (I think) ZBLLs or learn CFOP.

Why is the only option to get to a high level Petrus or CFOP?

 

[Owen Morrison]

Why is the only option to get to a high level Petrus or CFOP?

They aren't, you could use Roux or ZZ as well if you wanted to.

 

[I'm A Cuber]

I first learned to solve a cube one layer at a time. Then, for fun, I learned Petrus. Yes, I do enjoy it. That was all with an old, slow cube.

But I just ordered a brand new speed cube. And by the time it arrives, I want to pick a new speed cubing method to learn.

These are my requirements:
- I want a method for speed, with finger flicks and stuff like that.
- I don't mind learning something brand new.
- I don't mind using a bit of intuition to solve it. It doesn't have to be the "easy" way.
- And most importantly: I don't want to memorize a lot of algorithms. My memory is terrible.

I'm thinking Roux, with the Pinkie Pie variant. What do you all think?

Definitely go for roux

 

[Metallic Silver]

I feel like the lesser algs used for speedcubing, the more advanced stuff and harder you need to learn to speedsolve. People who have bad memory should just utilize helpful memory techniques. When learning algorithms, switch words from letter notations when there's a common move: (R U R' U') ---> (Sexy) or (R U R' U R U2 R') ---> (Sune). When performing algs, observing how an F2L pair moves or how pieces go can also help. Both of these helped me learn full OLL.

Pinkie pie seems to have a lot of algs, I'm not so sure about that, but you can go ahead and practice recognition with LSE.

 

[PetrusQuber]

I think you should stick with Petrus as it doesn't require many algs at all unless you want to be at the top level. If you want to get to the top level you could either stick with Petrus and learn the 492 (I think) ZBLLs, learn CFOP, or learn Roux. You should probably go with either CFOP or Roux because it seems as though you don't want to learn 492 algs.

I doubt OP is vying for WRs so you don’t really need 493 algs... I’m sub 13 Petrus without ZBLL

 

[Owen Morrison]

I doubt OP is vying for WRs so you don’t really need 493 algs... I’m sub 13 Petrus without ZBLL

I agree it seemed like they didn't want to learn a bunch of algs I just mentioned that if you want to be at the top level with Petrus you need those algs.

 

[Micah Morrison]

Don't convince yourself that you have a bad memory! If you do, then that would always be the thing holding you back from being a fast speedcuber. IMO anyone can learn full OLL and PLL (78 algs total). But it's really about seeing patterns in the different algs, which makes it all a ton easier. As for what method you use, CFOP and roux are about equal at the top level, and ZZ and Petrus are ok. Roux has slightly less algs than CFOP, but the CFOP algs are easier, so I'd say it all balances out. If you plan on becoming fast (like sub 8 and beyond) I wouldn't go with ZZ or Petrus since you pretty much have to learn 450+ algs to get there.

 

[PetrusQuber]

I agree it seemed like they didn't want to learn a bunch of algs I just mentioned that if you want to be at the top level with Petrus you need those algs.

Top level being WR which he probably isn’t aiming for ultimately?

 

[Owen Morrison]

Top level being WR which he probably isn’t aiming for ultimately?

I know that he probably isn't aiming for that, I just mentioned that if he sticks with Petrus and then decides he wants to be at the top level he would need to either learn those algs or switch methods.

 

[I'm A Cuber]

Roux has slightly less algs than CFOP, but the CFOP algs are easier, so I'd say it all balances out.

I disagree. Roux has half the number of algs, and about half of them are ones you will use in cfop. So really, you are learning twenty algs in both, and you decide between 60 cfop or 20 roux. There is no way you can say the CMLL algs are three times worse than the cfop algs. IMO The algs themselves are basically equal, although the recognition is slightly harder.

 

[Owen Morrison]

I disagree. Roux has half the number of algs, and about half of them are ones you will use in cfop. So really, you are learning twenty algs in both, and you decide between 60 cfop or 20 roux. There is no way you can say the CMLL algs are three times worse than the cfop algs. IMO The algs themselves are basically equal, although the recognition is slightly harder.

I don't think any of this is true lol.

 

[Kaneki Uchiha]

roux cmlls on avg are like 10 to 13 moves. some are smaller and are only like 6 moves.
and the algs are easier if not equal compared to cfop algs because the m slice is ignored the algs are overall just way better