Should World Class cubers be delegates?

[abunickabhi]

I see no harm in fast "world class" cubers becoming a delegate. But I think moderately competitive cuber would do a better job in delegating than a "world class" cuber.

Pros (Why your speed or record breaking capabilities does not matter in your quality of delegating)

• They have the skills for delegating so nothing should stop the, from doing both things to the best of their abilities
• World class cubers generally have more competition experience
• They understand the puzzle situations more (e.g. checking reconstruction of a doubtful solve by cuber X) as they are more involved in speedcubing leading to better incident handling

Cons (Why world class cubers should not be delegates):

• Lot of proving to do when they break any records
• They focus more of their efforts to self-improvement compared to the role of delegating
• They have to complete their solves and rounds most of the time, which makes them self-occupied and do less management
• They have crazy attitudes and may not be good in simple and diplomatic conversations
• They get burnt out faster
• They may give up delegating as soon as they feel their performance is being affected

This post was made in light of Kalindu's recent FMC WR. He has been a top cuber in Sri Lanka and breaking NRs every competition. He got world class in FMC in the last few months, and many people have questioned this speed of improvement assuming that he is a delegate.
Bottom line, suspicion is more when you improve a lot as a delegate.

 

[J41]

Cons (Why world class cubers should not be delegates):

• They have crazy attitudes and may not be good in simple and diplomatic conversations

I think it's hard to generalise these situations, but the point above in particular is off the mark IMO.

 

[ifpigscouldfly54]

its an ok idea, but having Yihang as a delegate would definitely end up bad. Nothing against him but he is a kid and delegating is usually done by adults of sometimes people in their late teens. People would definitely gat mad about it.

 

[Swann]

I see no harm in fast "world class" cubers becoming a delegate. But I think moderately competitive cuber would do a better job in delegating than a "world class" cuber.

Pros (Why your speed or record breaking capabilities does not matter in your quality of delegating)

• They have the skills for delegating so nothing should stop the, from doing both things to the best of their abilities
• World class cubers generally have more competition experience
• They understand the puzzle situations more (e.g. checking reconstruction of a doubtful solve by cuber X) as they are more involved in speedcubing leading to better incident handling

Cons (Why world class cubers should not be delegates):

• Lot of proving to do when they break any records
• They focus more of their efforts to self-improvement compared to the role of delegating
• They have to complete their solves and rounds most of the time, which makes them self-occupied and do less management
• They have crazy attitudes and may not be good in simple and diplomatic conversations
• They get burnt out faster
• They may give up delegating as soon as they feel their performance is being affected

This post was made in light of Kalindu's recent FMC WR. He has been a top cuber in Sri Lanka and breaking NRs every competition. He got world class in FMC in the last few months, and many people have questioned this speed of improvement assuming that he is a delegate.
Bottom line, suspicion is more when you improve a lot as a delegate.

I think the issue with Scrambes handled by delegates can be overcome by either using two factor authentication with one pass with Delegate and other with organizer which makes it not one person but two people with responsibilities split or an OTP that can be generated on the day of comp or can be triggered on delegates request, which helps us hold a log of times at which the scrambles were accessed.


This thing can help a lot of genuine delegate records be declared fair without lot of drama.

 

[JDAW6]

its an ok idea, but having Yihang as a delegate would definitely end up bad. Nothing against him but he is a kid and delegating is usually done by adults of sometimes people in their late teens. People would definitely gat mad about it.

Yeah obvi delegates are always 15+.

 

[Davian]

Is there an minimum age to be an delegate?

 

[OtaMota]

Is there a minimum age to be a delegate?

De jure, no, but almost all delegates are 18 and older, I have seen a delegate say that a delegate under 16 years old is basically impossible, with 16-18 being rare, and only if the person is very mature.

 

[Garf]

Sometimes they are a little lazy. I remember Sammeer Aggrawhal showing up late for a round once, and he got away with it because he’s a top class solver. I don’t think most people would be able to get away with it.

 

[UKCubeFan]

If a delegate is competing in a particular event, it's obvious that they shouldn't also be organising that event, or have access to anything that could give them an advantage competing. I don't know what WCA rules say.

 

[abunickabhi]

I think the issue with Scrambes handled by delegates can be overcome by either using two factor authentication with one pass with Delegate and other with organizer which makes it not one person but two people with responsibilities split or an OTP that can be generated on the day of comp or can be triggered on delegates request, which helps us hold a log of times at which the scrambles were accessed.


This thing can help a lot of genuine delegate records be declared fair without lot of drama.

I really like this idea.

I have an improvement here, we can make a person not competing in that event and part of the organizing team have the second part of the password.

We do not want to deal with a case where the delegate and organizer do systematic cheating and they both benefit out of it.