Should stickerless cubes be allowed in WCA competition?

[MalusDB]

Bump because I feel this really shouldn't be an issue. There is no true advantage from this in speedsolving. There is no way that the information could be interpreted at any reasonable rate to use it in any decent speedsolve. Why even bother with the regulation? Sure they want to maintain the integrity of the "solve" but anybody who thinks that speedsolving isn't just carrying out well rehearsed segments and putting the necessary ones together quickly is just plain ignorant.

/rant

 

[Coltee]

The advantage given by seeing the two colors of an edge piece probably only shows up with practice. I'd say that for people that aren't sub-15 it doesn't give a whole lot of advantage. It could provide an unfair boost to cubers with great lookahead though. I think WCA should make a competition solely for stickerless cubes, so that everybody would have that advantage and thus make things fair.

 

[asportking]

I think WCA should make a competition solely for stickerless cubes, so that everybody would have that advantage and thus make things fair.

Considering the difficulty just to get Skewb as an official event, I doubt they'd make a seperate event just for stickerless cubes.

 

[Cheese11]

Considering the difficulty just to get Skewb as an official event, I doubt they'd make a seperate event just for stickerless cubes.

They wouldn't have to make a whole new set of rules to go along with the event. Thus it would be easier. Honestly, I think it's a stupid idea.

 

[peterbone]

How about if you took a stickerless cube and drew a border along the edges with a black permanent marker pen? Would that allow it to be used in competition?

 

[JohnLaurain]

Are you allowed to use a stickerless cube for blindfolded solving? Since you wouldn't be able to look at the cube it would eliminate the advantage, unless the advantage was there for memorizing

 

[cubernya]

Are you allowed to use a stickerless cube for blindfolded solving? Since you wouldn't be able to look at the cube it would eliminate the advantage, unless the advantage was there for memorizing

Yes. You can use stickerless and pillowed cubes in blindslving.

 

[Jaycee]

Yes. You can use stickerless and pillowed cubes in blindslving.

Really? I thought the ONLY time a pillowed cube is allowed is for 7x7. (Excuse me if that doesn't sound grammatically correct, I can't word it correctly. :/)

 

[Evan Liu]

Really? I thought the ONLY time a pillowed cube is allowed is for 7x7. (Excuse me if that doesn't sound grammatically correct, I can't word it correctly. :/)

http://worldcubeassociation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=924
Last post of the thread (by Ron).

I've posted this so many times now...

 

[Windsor]

In my opinion, stickerless cubes would be good for repetitive practice because of the fact that there are no stickers to have fall off. However you would still have to get used to the feel of you other cube afterwards in order be more proficient at solving it for a competition. The matter regarding whether or not a stickeless cube should be able to be used in a competition, honestly it shouldn't matter whether or not WCA regulations allow stickerless cubes, because solving a cube is solving a cube, and unless you intend to cheat you won't spend the time it takes to look at the back of the cube for the colors.

 

[Godmil]

I'm surprised pillowed cubes are allowed in BLD events. Surely if they offer any advantage in normal 3x3, it would be in the same way as during memo... though I guess they tent to turn worse so it could balance out.

 

[Nestor]

How about if you took a stickerless cube and drew a border along the edges with a black permanent marker pen? Would that allow it to be used in competition?

No, the inner sides of the pieces would still be visible when you do U turns. If you dye the inside of the cube black, it might be legal.

 

[Bapao]

How about if you took a stickerless cube and drew a border along the edges with a black permanent marker pen? Would that allow it to be used in competition?

That could have a negative effect on the performance of the cube if you ask me. I might try it to find out though. Plus, the permanent marker would probably start wearing off after a solve or two...

 

[skeletonboy]

No, the inner sides of the pieces would still be visible when you do U turns. If you dye the inside of the cube black, it might be legal.

Permanent Markers are technically only "permanent" on paper and fabric. If you do it on plastic (polished plastic escpecially), it can be wiped off with your fingertips.

 

[Nestor]

Permanent Markers are technically only "permanent" on paper and fabric. If you do it on plastic (polished plastic escpecially), it can be wiped off with your fingertips.

I was referring to serious dying, like using RIT dye or more powerful chemicals.

 

[skeletonboy]

I was referring to serious dying, like using RIT dye or more powerful chemicals.

And yet, I was referring to peterbone. Not you. Of course dye would would work.

 

[Tim Major]

And yet, I was referring to peterbone. Not you. Of course dye would would work.

You quoted UnAbusador, so it makes sense he would think you were talking to him >_<

 

[Godmil]

If you try to make a 6 coloured cube competition legal you quickly get to a point where it would be easier to just buy another cube.

 

[peterbone]

If you try to make a 6 coloured cube competition legal you quickly get to a point where it would be easier to just buy another cube.

It's not about trying to avoid buying a stickered cube, it's about preferring to use a stickerless because you don't have to worry about the stickers chipping or peeling off. I also prefer the feel of the stickerless. I really think that with today's technology, we shouldn't need to put a sticker on the plastic to give colour to a face. Tiled cubes are better but they feel different.

 

[Godmil]

Yeah, I just ordered my first stickerless cube, and am very excited about it... a problem with anything you want to do to the inside though is it will most likely change the feel of the cube, to the point that it's not nicer than a standard one. I too wish it could be just the outside the is coloured cause I think having more colour per surface area will help me a lot with my colour recognition.