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Rubik's Cube at olympics

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That isn't the point i'm making. My point is this: I bet not a single one of them could handle a proper bow and arrow (by this I mean, when bows and arrows were actually still used). They have these super high tech, metal, nicely balanced, with aiming bars etc etc bows, and perfect arrows, and it's all pointless.
If I put you in the wild, and offered you that bow and arrow, or a gun, which would you take? Only an idiot wouldn't choose the gun as priority.
The whole idea behind it becomes redundant when they start "high-teching" the equipment up.
Here's how I would arrange the archery:
Day 1: You go out into the wild with a very basic knife made of stone, and have 24 hours to find the appropriate materials and fashion yourself out a bow and arrows.
Day 2: You are put into a cage with a wild, and very hungry bear. Last animal standing wins.
The result? Not a single one of them would even have a bow ready after the 24 hours. I bet none of them would even know what type of wood to look for.
I must stress my point: the "sport" becomes redundant once it becomes "futuristic". It no longer has its "essence", and becomes a drawback version of target shooting with the most high-tech gun.

EDIT: I may as well add that I was talking to someone the other day who also agreed with me, and proposed a different idea. You walk around a track, where targets randomly pop out of the bushes or whatever, and you are given points based on how fast, and how accurate, the shots you make are.
I think the targets popping out randomly is also a form of archery sport. For something like the Olympics though, it's easier to compare performance with everybody shooting under the exact same conditions, hence target shooting.

How many sports haven't been "high-tech"-ed up these days? Maybe track and field runners should run barefoot on unpaved tracks, and swimmers should go without their high tech suits specially designed to minimize drag.

On topic: I don't think cubing should be in the Olympics. Not just based on whether it is or isn't a sport, as plenty of sports aren't in the Olympics. Top Olympic athletes have dedicated their whole lives to their sport. Most have been training from a very young age. Compare that to cubing, where any shmuck can pick up a cube and become a contender at national or even world championships within a year or two.

And face it, Olympic sports emphasize physical training and fitness. This is why I don't think chess would ever become an Olympic sport either. Sure, cubing has a physical aspect, but that's mostly just dexterity. If that were enough, you would see pen-spinning, juggling, card tricks, glowsticking, Rubik's magic, and yes, even cupstacking as contenders for Olympic sports.
 
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Cubing does use physical power! You need finger strength to flick your cube, although there is silicone. Rofl
 
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#83
Cubing doesn't use a *significant* amount of physical power. You can be a master cuber without looking muscular or athletic - and nobody works out so they can cube better. (As far as I know.) Contrast that to most real sports where the competitors are clearly athletes.
 

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#84
The Chinese tried to get 'paper scissors rock' as their guest sport in this years olympics, so speedcubing in the olympics may be a possibility, although I don't think they should do it.
why would they get rock paper scissors as an event? that's like luck :O
and I would definately participate when im 15
hes right rock paper scissors is more of a luck thing for speed cubing you need more skill
I know tricks for Rocks Paper Scissors.
can you share them? i kinda such a ruck paper scissors...
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That is just the beginning :)
Here is the real deal.
By the way, rps stands for Rock Paper Scissors :)
:eek:
Fortunately there is a flash game that has the x beats y matrix encoded. It would take quite a while to lurn the rules of those games, especically for the 101 variation :fp

The first variation looked like a 3x3x3 evolving into a 4x4x4, 5x5x5, 6x6x6, 7x7x7, etc. But those latest variations are just like some of our online 5D-120-interconnected-gazillionminxes
My friend Shiao and I play RPS-101.
Whenever we tie, it's always--and always has been--on UFO.
Damn, butter beats beer....
 

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Nice thought though, but I really think that solving a Rubik's cube is not a sport. It's the same argument that gets people divided if poker and its variants is a sport too.

If solving cubes were to ever become an Olympic sport, it would be rather boring to watch. We can give good commentary about techinque about doing a good long jump, etc but techinque about OLL'and PLL's and F2l? It would bore most non dedicated cube type viewers.

And if cubing ever came an Olympic sport, how about its inclusionin the para Olympics too?
 
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Cubing doesn't use a *significant* amount of physical power. You can be a master cuber without looking muscular or athletic - and nobody works out so they can cube better. (As far as I know.) Contrast that to most real sports where the competitors are clearly athletes.
I lift cast puzzles with my fingers for M-slice strength.:p
 
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If solving cubes were to ever become an Olympic sport, it would be rather boring to watch. We can give good commentary about techinque about doing a good long jump, etc but techinque about OLL'and PLL's and F2l? It would bore most non dedicated cube type viewers.
I don't see that as a problem. Plenty of sports have terminology that isn't obvious to someone who has never looked into the sport. If cubing ever got popular enough to be on the olympics (or something similar) I think most spectators would at least understand the rules and the basics of what's going on.
 
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If you look up the requirements to be considered an Olympic sport, cubing practically covers all the areas.

I say a WCA delegate should step up and talk to the IOC about becoming an Olympic sport :)

It's worth a try...
 
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What athletic ability does cubing involve? it doesn't even come CLOSE to ANYTHING else in the olympics right now.
Honestly.
Why are people even considering this?
Practicing fingers.

It's not a sport unless it requires some form of physical strength or endurance. Anything that doesn't at least meet that requirement shouldn't even be considered for Olympic induction.

As much as I love speedcubing... I've gotta say, it's just not a "sport".
Some people call it a sport (like me). I'd love to see it! I would be a strong supporter.:D But i just don't think it's gonna happen.
 

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I've had this discussion very often with my family. When they say it's not a sport, I bring in many arguments to why not? Such as Poker is, car racing is, the Japanese tried to get paper, scissors, rock as a sport. I believe it can be a sport. Then why not in the Olympics. Because it wouldn't have a big audience. The first time it's at the Olympics, it would, but it would decrease. Whilst it's amazing seeing people solve 3x3's in 10 seconds flat, it gets boring to people after a while. It would not be a good sport for the Olympics.

I also don't want it to be a sport, because then interest would really pick up. I don't want cubing to really pick up, because if it did, it would eventually die down, and it would be considered extremely uncool. I don't want to see cubing at the Olympics. However, ^^^ is just my opinion, and doesn't have to be yours. But I really think it could be bad for cubing.
 
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The problem that I can see arising is that speed cubing becomes too popular, and then the ability to solve a Rubik's cube, regardless of speed, will become something of the ordinary. In other words, the 'wow-factor' of speed cubing will be tarnished if it becomes an Olympic sport, or even really well-known.
 
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The problem that I can see arising is that speed cubing becomes too popular, and then the ability to solve a Rubik's cube, regardless of speed, will become something of the ordinary. In other words, the 'wow-factor' of speed cubing will be tarnished if it becomes an Olympic sport, or even really well-known.
Their is no "wow-factor" in just playing a sport. It's being good at it that counts.
 

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There is debate right now to add 20/20 Cricket to the 2020 Olympics.

But Cricket is a proven sport.

To add speedcubing to the Olympics will raise the old debate of "Is speedcubing a sport? And if speedcubing is a sport, is no limit texas poker a sport too?"

(This is a alternative take on "Is Pluto a planet or not?")

I'm very sure that poker players would also like to take part in the Olympics too.

Both speedcubers and poker players can argue that both "sports" are games of skill that require constant pratice, knowledge and brains to play. For a poker player, it would take learning hand rankings (from 2/2 to A/A for example) and for speedcubers it would take the form of learning full Fridrich and so on.

You could argue both ways on both speedcubing and poker as a "sport".

And you also could add chess to the debate too.
 
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olympics is like an official WCA competition with press coverage.

I like speedcubing but that doesnt mean i need thousands of people "trying it out" and all of this other junk.
 
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