Roux method

[rubik'scube]

I'm currently getting ~65 second averages, and I've just learned the 4LLL algorithms, and I'm hoping that I can get my average down to 55s. I've looked at the different methods available, and I was wondering: is the Roux method ever used for speedcubing?

 

[fanwuq]

yes! it is great! You can probably get a 15s average with lots of practice. But most people don't use it. It would be more difficult to find help than if you were to use Fridrich. But it's quite interesting. I'm starting to learn it myself.

 

[masterofthebass]

The fastest person at roux, is the inventor himself... He has a the fastest official single over 10.00, and a 13s average. Roux can be very fast, as long as you practice.

 

[ShawnCunningham]

I learned Roux and I like the way it works, but I'm going to stick with CFOP

 

[badmephisto]

If i were to start again, I would seriously consider learning Roux... but I already know too much Fridrich, and the prospect of re-learning a method is not that exciting to me. I think you should do it, and let us know what you think

 

[pjk]

I'd recommend Roux. After going sub-15 w/ Fridrich, I decided to switch over to Roux. I've been seriously practicing for about 2 weeks, and I am down to 30 second average. I honestly think it will be the top method to use one day.

 

[LamentConfiguration]

I like Roux except for the edge orienting step, it can end up frustrating me, with Fridrich I can gradually add more and more algorithms if I feel the need to get faster (I'm sure I will).

 

[fanwuq]

I like Roux except for the edge orienting step, it can end up frustrating me, with Fridrich I can gradually add more and more algorithms if I feel the need to get faster (I'm sure I will).

Me too. I only know how to do a few of the cases efficiently. The 2 edge flip on F side, I cannot do.

 

[LamentConfiguration]

If both are on the F side, do a U2 and then a y2 so that the top front and back bottom are the wrong ones and then do M`U M (I learned a lot when someone told me that you have to have 2, 4, or 6 wrong edges).

 

[Kenneth]

I'm using a diffrent method for Roux last step. It uses a few turns more than the original but is has got faster recognition and is, at least for me, easier to do.

1. Place centres and BD edge ... this leaves 5 edges to solve.

2. Orient all edges ... 9 cases I think it was but to me it's intuitive solving using M' U M as base.

3. Place FD edge ... M' U2 M ... Often you can do this while orienting in the previous step.

4. EPLL .... U-PLL, H-PLL and Z-PLL ... skips 1 of 12 times.

Lighting fast

I can post the algs for orientation if you like? (it's some work so I don't do it now). Edit, iI counted them, t's only 5 cases, you will easily find the "algs" yourself =)

EDIT: note that the worst case of six unoriented edges does not occur using this style.

 

[masterofthebass]

The edge orienting step is the easiest step... and quickest! Each case resolves to another case, and it really only uses 1 main "algorithm" M' U M'. I don't know how much simpler it can really get.

 

[LamentConfiguration]

Yeah, they do all resolve to another case, but sometimes it keeps going back and forth between them for (what feels like to me) a long time.

 

[Kenneth]

Waddayasay, I just did a couple of Roux solves and had 22.21 EPLL-skip as best (happens 1 of 12 solves), also a 23 sec but rather lucky and a few 25-27 second non lucky solves. But most times it was 30-35 becuse I'm not used to this method, just know all steps from other methods I know.

Note that my best average using my speed method is 28 seconds, so... it's definitly worth learning, it's a wery nice method.

 

[fanwuq]

If both are on the F side, do a U2 and then a y2 so that the top front and back bottom are the wrong ones and then do M`U M (I learned a lot when someone told me that you have to have 2, 4, or 6 wrong edges).

but that's a 4 flip. It ends up flipping LU, BU, BD, RU.

 

[LamentConfiguration]

I know, I'm just going by the instructions on:
http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Step_4.html

 

[pjk]

EO is one of the easiest steps, like Dan said. Just takes practice w/ recognition, like anything.

And when solving, don't rotate the cube. That is one of the advantages to Roux, you can solve without even rotating, and it really improves your times. And a typical Roux solve is like 48 moves, nearly 10 less than w/ Fridrich.

 

[fanwuq]

48 moves stm or htm? What are some guides on EO other than Roux's site?

 

[badmephisto]

Yes but how much Fun is it to solve Roux? I really like Fridrich because F2L is a lot of fun. It really is, i dont know why :s

 

[LamentConfiguration]

roux can be a lot of fun honestly, but frustrating (to me) at the same time. I like the consistency of fridrich honestly.

 

[Lofty]

Personally, I think it is amazingly fun to solve Roux! I love the method but will never put much effort into it as it is not exactly OH friendly...