Dene
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This thread is still going? Deary me.
Isn't the idea that the whole earth was created from sound waves even more ridiculous than evolution?
Yes it is. It would take much more than just sound waves to create something as amazing as we have here.
It would be nice if Christianity itself always followed Christ's teachings. Unfortunately they diverged at a relatively early point in Church history.Specific institutions within Christianity may act differently, so here I must give you that point. But I am talking about Christ himself, and his teachings.
Hmm, careful. I've heard she and her organization were not nearly as amazing as popular opinion would have it.Mother Teresa, a wonderful woman of Christianity, I would say is not fanatical or extreme. She practiced with humility, and sought not to hurt a single being.
But you can see that in almost all of these situations, the person who committed the offense is in direct opposition to the majority of the religion's followers. If the whole religion or the majority is in agreement with this heinous crime, I would call it a bad religion.
I do not claim to be an authority on Christianity. This is why I am taking all of my points from AUTHORITIES in the Christian faith. Namely, the Bible, the living word of God, and the foundations and catechisms of Christianity itself.
There are specific catechisms/doctrines of faith that are supposed to be accepted for you to be classified as a member of a religion. One such in Christianity is that direct abortion is wrong. But another is that the ends don't justify the means.
This man would be the exact opposite; wishing to be praised for his actions, as well as taking only parts of the Christian law as specifically important.
Energy waves do not need a medium. Light waves as well as other waves travel through vacuum without a problem.Has anyone even bothered to point out that sound waves don't exist without a medium? As in, even if there was a god and he had a voice and spoke words, there would no sound and he couldn't do anything?
Because he has to create air first. And I don't think he did that until about day 4.
It would be nice if Christianity itself always followed Christ's teachings. Unfortunately they diverged at a relatively early point in Church history.
This:There, you have just proven yourself to be a troll.
Please, state your definition of a troll.
You also admitted that it takes some amount of blind faith to be believing in God... Interesting.
Absolutely. God does not advertise His existence with big banners and flashing lights. He wants to see what we are like when we think no one is watching, when we are honest. In a way how those who usually speed in their cars slow down when there is a police around, we would be much different (fake) people, if we could see someone like God looking over our shoulder.
Lalala...
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Bakara 217:
And if any of you turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.
So now, you can't ask any questions. You might convert or something.Maide 101/102:
O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Quran is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Forbearing.
Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.
You also quoted that there is no compulsion in religion, so that nobody should force someone to accept Islam. I will quote, yet again:Bakara 106:
None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?
Nahl 101:
When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them know not.
But also:
Fatır 43:
But no change wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing): no turning off wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing).
Fetih 23:
(Such has been) the practice (approved) of Allah already in the past: no change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah.
Tövbe 5:
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the polytheists wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and pay Zakat, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Merciful.
This verse is for the Muslims. Those who quits Islam, or convert to other religion, and died in the religion other than Islam, will be companions of the Hell Fire.Bakara 217:
And if any of you turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.
Maide 101/102:
O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Quran is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Forbearing.
Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.
That is not what it meant by the Verse.
Lets say, for example, in this forum itself. It was when a lots of people keep asking what is the best Hybrid Cube, the best cube, etc. People keep replying the same thing over and over again. At first it was ok, but after awhile, people get annoyed. And if someone ask you a question, and you explained the answer clearly, then he ask why, how, when, over and over again even though you have explained the bits to him. Can you control you anger and patience? If yes, MasyaAllah. And what it was meant by "cause you trouble", if someone or teacher is angry at you, will you be in trouble?
Fatır 43:
But no change wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing): no turning off wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing).
Do you know what Sunnatullah is? The qoute from Surah Fatir is saying different things from the Surah Al-Baqarah.
And, answer this honestly, do you read the Quran Text (arabic)? Or you just read the translation? In order to completely understand the Quran, first you need to know Arabic. Not the Arabic being spoken by the Arabs from Saudi or Egypt or Yemen or Morocco. But the Ummi Arabic (the Original, like the one in the Quran). The Arabs use their local slang to communicate each other. And that is only half way to understanding the Quran completely. You need to refer to the Hadith. Refer to the Sirah (history) Of Prophet Muhammad.
And to prove that you didn't read the Quran Text, there is no such thing as Tövbe. It is written as Tawbah توبة. You should have known better.
And to answer you last quote, we did not slay people. The word Slay means war. War against the polytheists(Musyrikin Of Makkah). If you have read the Sirah, then you will know what they have done.
And for those who repent, and establish regular prayers and pay Zakat, then open the way for them, : for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Merciful.
Internet debate will last long, so, I don't really want to waste my time here debating with you. Because Allah will only give guidance for those He wants(for those who wants to find Allah, the truth).
And by trying to find the mistakes in the Quran, why don't you try to find mistakes in you holy Book or atleast convince other people that yours is true. It will take you forever to find the mistakes in the Quran
P/S MasyaAllah brother forgotten, beautiful link. I never knew about the Mathematic Calculations found in the Quran. MasyaAllah.
End my post, may Allah guide for those who seek for the truth.
Wallahu'alam.
This verse is for the Muslims. Those who quits Islam, or convert to other religion, and died in the religion other than Islam, will be companions of the Hell Fire.Bakara 217:
And if any of you turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.
Please read that verse again. You're just making things up to make it sound right.That is not what it meant by the Verse.Maide 101/102:
O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Quran is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Forbearing.
Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.
Lets say, for example, in this forum itself. It was when a lots of people keep asking what is the best Hybrid Cube, the best cube, etc. People keep replying the same thing over and over again. At first it was ok, but after awhile, people get annoyed. And if someone ask you a question, and you explained the answer clearly, then he ask why, how, when, over and over again even though you have explained the bits to him. Can you control you anger and patience? If yes, MasyaAllah. And what it was meant by "cause you trouble", if someone or teacher is angry at you, will you be in trouble?
Do you know what Sunnatullah is? The qoute from Surah Fatir is saying different things from the Surah Al-Baqarah.Fatır 43:
But no change wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing): no turning off wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing).
And, answer this honestly, do you read the Quran Text (arabic)? Or you just read the translation? In order to completely understand the Quran, first you need to know Arabic. Not the Arabic being spoken by the Arabs from Saudi or Egypt or Yemen or Morocco. But the Ummi Arabic (the Original, like the one in the Quran). The Arabs use their local slang to communicate each other. And that is only half way to understanding the Quran completely. You need to refer to the Hadith. Refer to the Sirah (history) Of Prophet Muhammad.
And to prove that you didn't read the Quran Text, there is no such thing as Tövbe. It is written as Tawbah توبة. You should have known better.
And to answer you last quote, we did not slay people. The word Slay means war. War against the polytheists(Musyrikin Of Makkah). If you have read the Sirah, then you will know what they have done.
And for those who repent, and establish regular prayers and pay Zakat, then open the way for them, : for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Merciful.
Internet debate will last long, so, I don't really want to waste my time here debating with you. Because Allah will only give guidance for those He wants(for those who wants to find Allah, the truth).
And by trying to find the mistakes in the Quran, why don't you try to find mistakes in you holy Book or atleast convince other people that yours is true. It will take you forever to find the mistakes in the Quran
P/S MasyaAllah brother forgotten, beautiful link. I never knew about the Mathematic Calculations found in the Quran. MasyaAllah.
End my post, may Allah guide for those who seek for the truth.
Wallahu'alam.
For that matter, what do the Muslims here make of this? It isn't some crazy obscure historical event I'm bringing up, this happened under ten years ago...
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