Random Blindfold Cubing Discussion

penguinz7 said:
That sounds like a great idea, thanks! I checked out your spreadsheet but the vertical column goes by letter, and I don't know your letter scheme. :P I've also started making a spreadsheet, but I'm nowhere near finished.
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The lettering scheme is explained at the top :) The horizontal letters at the top of the sheet each have a position marked underneath them. eg: G has LFD. So you can go by that for the letters in the vertical column that I haven't marked. And btw, it's the Speffz scheme.
 
Hari said:
The lettering scheme is explained at the top :) The horizontal letters at the top of the sheet each have a position marked underneath them. eg: G has LFD. So you can go by that for the letters in the vertical column that I haven't marked. And btw, it's the Speffz scheme.
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Ahhh, that makes sense. thanks :p
 
I'm sure this has been asked or talked about before so sorry for bringing it up again but, i was wondering. How does one forget better? I've been doing a lot of 4bld recently and I find it very hard to forget the memo and confuse old memos with my current one. I never really had this problem when I was pratising mbld a lot because even if i remembered an old memo my memories seemed to "stack" on top of one another in that they weren't together they were just one top of each other, so I didn't confuse them. But 4bld this is not the case, and I cant seem to forget quickly at all or avoid confusing the memos and it is rather annoying. So are there any suggestions or methods to forgetting better? (or is it all in my head? lol)
 
Does anybody know how to get more successes on 3bld? Other than my PB that I got a couple of days ago, I haven't gotten a success since then. And I've done about 40-50 attempts. Does anybody know how to get more successes and less DNF's? I know about the postmortem DNF thread, but that doesn't make much sense to me and I don't use 3 cycles.
Help?
 
SirWaffle said:
I'm sure this has been asked or talked about before so sorry for bringing it up again but, i was wondering. How does one forget better? I've been doing a lot of 4bld recently and I find it very hard to forget the memo and confuse old memos with my current one. I never really had this problem when I was pratising mbld a lot because even if i remembered an old memo my memories seemed to "stack" on top of one another in that they weren't together they were just one top of each other, so I didn't confuse them. But 4bld this is not the case, and I cant seem to forget quickly at all or avoid confusing the memos and it is rather annoying. So are there any suggestions or methods to forgetting better? (or is it all in my head? lol)
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It's a bit of a double edged sword - you can forget better by visualizing less during the solve, but this may make you DNF more. As you practice more, it will naturally become easier to forget previous memos. But you can try some of these:

1. Use different memory routes for each attempt. For example, I used to switch between my old work buildings for different 4/5BLD attempts. By the time I've gotten to my 3rd route, I'd forgotten what the memo was in the first route.
2. Listen to music or watch a TV programme or something. If it's new to you, then it gives your memory something else to do.
3. Do 3BLD attempts - not much visualizing needed here, and you're still practicing your BLD while you wait to forget previous memos!

josh42732 said:
Does anybody know how to get more successes on 3bld? Other than my PB that I got a couple of days ago, I haven't gotten a success since then. And I've done about 40-50 attempts. Does anybody know how to get more successes and less DNF's? I know about the postmortem DNF thread, but that doesn't make much sense to me and I don't use 3 cycles.
Help?
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You may have picked up a bad habit while practicing. Do normal solves, but don't put on the blindfold when you finish memo. Watch the cube as you execute to check that everything you are doing is correct - take special care with set-up moves. If it's not an execution thing, then it might be a memo thing. You may need to slow down during memo a bit and take care to execute your pieces in the correct order, without missing letters out. Rushing leads to more mistakes as you get better, it's just a natural part of BLD. But don't give up :)
 
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SirWaffle said:
I'm sure this has been asked or talked about before so sorry for bringing it up again but, i was wondering. How does one forget better? I've been doing a lot of 4bld recently and I find it very hard to forget the memo and confuse old memos with my current one. I never really had this problem when I was pratising mbld a lot because even if i remembered an old memo my memories seemed to "stack" on top of one another in that they weren't together they were just one top of each other, so I didn't confuse them. But 4bld this is not the case, and I cant seem to forget quickly at all or avoid confusing the memos and it is rather annoying. So are there any suggestions or methods to forgetting better? (or is it all in my head? lol)
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Using different locis for each solve works the best (you probably have quite a lot of loci already since you have done MBLD before...)

Other than that. Once you get faster you will memo 4BLD more like 3BLD (so more audio and less visualization) and that obviously helps.

For actually "forgetting" faster I don't really have any tips. I have this problem sometimes if I do too much MBLD but then I just take a break for a few days...
 
josh42732 said:
Does anybody know how to get more successes on 3bld? Other than my PB that I got a couple of days ago, I haven't gotten a success since then. And I've done about 40-50 attempts. Does anybody know how to get more successes and less DNF's? I know about the postmortem DNF thread, but that doesn't make much sense to me and I don't use 3 cycles.
Help?
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I think the key is to figure out what it is that you are doing wrong. You could practice execution only and/or memo only and see which you are messing up. In my signature there is a link to a site I made which helps with this and postmortems (customizable letter scheme/buffers, will check if your memo is correct for given scramble or will generate memo for given scramble).
 
SirWaffle said:
I'm sure this has been asked or talked about before so sorry for bringing it up again but, i was wondering. How does one forget better? I've been doing a lot of 4bld recently and I find it very hard to forget the memo and confuse old memos with my current one. I never really had this problem when I was pratising mbld a lot because even if i remembered an old memo my memories seemed to "stack" on top of one another in that they weren't together they were just one top of each other, so I didn't confuse them. But 4bld this is not the case, and I cant seem to forget quickly at all or avoid confusing the memos and it is rather annoying. So are there any suggestions or methods to forgetting better? (or is it all in my head? lol)
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I'll go with what Ollie said about using different routes. You obviously have a lot of routes since you've done a 25 cube multi.
If that doesn't work or you're already doing that, just try waiting a few minutes between attempts. The faster you get the less you'll have to wait.
 
Keroma12 said:
I think the key is to figure out what it is that you are doing wrong. You could practice execution only and/or memo only and see which you are messing up. In my signature there is a link to a site I made which helps with this and postmortems (customizable letter scheme/buffers, will check if your memo is correct for given scramble or will generate memo for given scramble).
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Well whadya know. Just yesterday, I used your website and when I tried to use it, and check my memo, I didn't know how to input the twisted corners/flipped edges. Do I just put one of the letters of the piece that needs to be flipped or put the number of pieces that need flipped, or put both letters in? I don't know.
 
josh42732 said:
Well whadya know. Just yesterday, I used your website and when I tried to use it, and check my memo, I didn't know how to input the twisted corners/flipped edges. Do I just put one of the letters of the piece that needs to be flipped or put the number of pieces that need flipped, or put both letters in? I don't know.
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For each twisted corner (apart from buffer of course), just enter any single one of the three letters which are on that piece. If you have four corners to twist, you would enter four letters. Similarly for edges. Is there a better way that I can phrase this? Try submitting a "scramble" like L' U2 L U L' U L U2 L U2 L' U' L U' L' U2 to see what memo it produces for you.

[Edit: Unless you selected not to have corners as a separate list, in which case you would just add them to the end of your corner memo by treating them as a 2-cycle.]

I realize that this isn't how many people memorize twisted corners, but as far as submitting the data my program needs, this seemed like the simplest thing. I am definitely open to suggestions for changes.
 
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Keroma12 said:
For each twisted corner (apart from buffer of course), just enter any single one of the three letters which are on that piece. If you have four corners to twist, you would enter four letters. Similarly for edges. Is there a better way that I can phrase this? Try submitting a "scramble" like L' U2 L U L' U L U2 L U2 L' U' L U' L' U2 to see what memo it produces for you.

I realize that this isn't how many people memorize twisted corners, but as far as submitting the data my program needs, this seemed like the simplest thing. I am definitely open to suggestions for changes.
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OK I get it now! Thanks for your help! Also, I do recommend just putting in the number of twisted corners or edges because for me, I do a visual twist or flip and not the letter so I don't always know what the letter pair is that I'm twisting. Unless I am doing MBLD. But for just normal BLD solving, I do the visual correction which is easier to count the number of twisted edges/corners. It saves time, and memo amount
 
josh42732 said:
OK I get it now! Thanks for your help! Also, I do recommend just putting in the number of twisted corners or edges because for me, I do a visual twist or flip and not the letter so I don't always know what the letter pair is that I'm twisting. Unless I am doing MBLD. But for just normal BLD solving, I do the visual correction which is easier to count the number of twisted edges/corners. It saves time, and memo amount
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You want to just provide the amount of flipped edges, and not which edges need flipping? This isn't enough information to tell if your memo is correct. Am I understanding correctly? (Similarly for corners.)

I also use visual memo for twisted corners. When I use my program, I simply mentally translate this visual into a letter for each piece. As I mentioned, I'm not entirely satisfied with this approach, but I don't have any better ideas at this point.
 
Keroma12 said:
You want to just provide the amount of flipped edges, and not which edges need flipping? This isn't enough information to tell if your memo is correct. Am I understanding correctly? (Similarly for corners.)

I also use visual memo for twisted corners. When I use my program, I simply mentally translate this visual into a letter for each piece. As I mentioned, I'm not entirely satisfied with this approach, but I don't have any better ideas at this point.
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Yes you are understanding correctly, but I do side with you that it is easier to do just one letter that needs flipped/twisted. I think you should keep it!
 
josh42732 said:
Does anybody know how to get more successes on 3bld? Other than my PB that I got a couple of days ago, I haven't gotten a success since then. And I've done about 40-50 attempts. Does anybody know how to get more successes and less DNF's? I know about the postmortem DNF thread, but that doesn't make much sense to me and I don't use 3 cycles.
Help?
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I'm right there with you. My success rate is appalling so I have decided on a new tactic. Full OP is being replaced by OP/M2 as M2 has fewer moves so hopefully fewer execution errors. Also, as it will be quicker I won't have to hold the memo as long. While I'm learning it I've been doing a lot of OP corners only solves. This is fun and easy and really helps with confidence.

I like the idea of just building up to full solves rather than failing repeatedly.
 
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