Racing to sub-20

I know my Ns are bad; I haven't tried to fix them yet because they're relatively rare and I figure there's more to gain elsewhere. Most of my PLLs now are pretty standard, as long as I use my new Gs. I'm still not that comfortable with the Gs, though, and I use my old bad ones on big cubes.

While the algorithms might be part of the problem, I don't really think it's the big issue; I just need to practice what I have (other than the Ns, anyway). There's no reason why I can't sub-2 the rest, except that I haven't practiced enough.
 
Ok for 1 of the N's here is a really simple alg mike: (R U R' U)(R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R')(U2 R U' R') if you look it is R U R' U then the J perm then undo set up quite easy! if you use that it might help you
 
Tall5001 said:
Ok for 1 of the N's here is a really simple alg mike: (R U R' U)(R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R')(U2 R U' R') if you look it is R U R' U then the J perm then undo set up quite easy! if you use that it might help you
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That alg is terrible, easy to remember but its way too high movecount


Better one -> (z [ R U R' D R2 U' R D'] [U R' D R2 U' R D'] )
 
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EricReese said:
That alg is terrible, easy to remember but its way too high movecount
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I agree, I've tried it before. I'm as slow with that as I am with the one I use. I can't handle high movecount algs. And I don't like them either.


EricReese said:
Better one -> (z [ R U R' D R2 U' R D'] [U R' D R2 U' R D'] )
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That feels a little like the good E perm; I think I might be able to handle that one. Nice - thanks!
 
Tall5001 said:
That uses D and is hard to remember. The move count may be high but is super easy to remember and is pretty fast!
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Hard to remember..? It flows pretty nice for me. Your alg is like 22 moves IIRC, and Mike would need around 11tps to sub 2 that, which sorry to say, is not happening for him. Have you tried the alg? I think its a really good alg, I don't mind at all getting that N perm. In fact my best time on that pll is 1.65
 
Note that the first R is just me doing an AUF because I always line the 2 pieces up in their correct places before doing the alg. If anyone cares, here is my other N perm alg, best time on this is 2.00, t he only PLL I haven't sub 2'd. Not as nice as the earlier one, but its still quite a bit better then the badmephistos N perm alg I'm sure some of you are using. PM me if you guys want any other PLLs/algs, I don't want to clutter this thread up too much :3

[z ( [D' R U' R2 D R' U] [D' R U' R2 D R' U R'])

A key to getting this fast (which I am too lazy to do, is to learn to do the U and the D' (in between the [] brackets if you know what I mean) at the same time, I for some reason do both them seperately which is dumb, and probably a main reason I haven't sub 2'd it.
 
I've been practicing your alg, Eric, and I really like it. It's already about a second faster than my old one. I'm trying to learn the mirror now. (Eric, I'm just learning the mirror of your other one; it seems equally fast to the original to me.

@Tall5001: If you're used to the fast E perm, the D's are a plus, not a minus. Fast people can sub-1 that E perm, and I can sub-2 it. I love U R D algs - they're super fast!
 
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Round 102
22.30
21.58 35.61 23.06 25.03 20.88 20.58 23.61 15.43 28.65 19.65 19.05 20.91
Comment: Best Average 3/5: 0:19.87 (15.43 28.65 19.65 19.05 20.91)

Round 103
20.62
18.06 38.71 20.21 19.83 21.81 22.16 19.19 22.22 20.72 23.36 18.61 16.88
Comment: Best Average 3/5: 0:20.52 (22.22 20.72 23.36 18.61 16.88)

Round 104
21.17
21.40 21.05 20.52 18.15 18.71 19.84 22.91 26.40 22.16 21.96 20.53 22.58
Comment: Best Average 3/5: 0:19.69 (21.05 20.52 18.15 18.71 19.84)

Round 105
20.93
19.53 18.86 20.38 20.18 21.77 18.71 24.18 20.77 26.88 23.09 18.41 21.84
Comment: Best Average 3/5: 0:19.81 (18.86 20.38 20.18 21.77 18.71)

General Comment: Didn't solve 3x3x3 in about a week and I am back to my old level. I tried slowing down, turning superfast, but nothing worked well :( It was really nice to be sub 20 for a while. I will start my daily practice again!
 
Round 105

Average: 26.12

27.20, 27.78, 24.83, 21.87, 28.77, 24.88, 28.80, (36.45), 26.52, 25.11, 25.41, (20.55 PLL skip)

Well moving in the right direction, albeit slowly. Happy with the average and it is not too many miles from my pb. Interesting I am a complete Lingyun fan but need to clean my main out with googone so did this set on my Guhong. Still do not prefer the feel but the LL seemed faster to me on it.

number of times: 12/12
best time: 20.55
worst time: 36.45

current avg5: 25.68 (σ = 0.61)
best avg5: 25.68 (σ = 0.61)

current avg12: 26.12 (σ = 2.03)
best avg12: 26.12 (σ = 2.03)

session avg: 26.12 (σ = 2.03)
session mean: 26.51
 
22.18, 19.32, 21.54, 19.42, 21.17, (18.65), 19.20, (22.33), 20.80, 22.09, 22.08, 20.76 =20.86

So that is 6-4 for me against Arnaud... Seems that the student is beating the master for now! :D (but I expect the master to start practicing again or it will be no fun for the student anymore ! ^^)
 
Round 105 - Yellow Cross
19.88, 21.70, 16.58, 21.61, 19.58, 19.20, (22.88), 18.78, 20.53, (15.92), 19.99, 19.22 = 19.71!
Wow, I am beasting today. :D
Just did a normal (white cross) avg of 12 before, got 2 14s and set a PB avg of 5 and 12!
 
Round 105:

Average: 23.41s

(19.68) 22.47, 23.44, 21.20, 24.95, 30.34, 21.87, 20.70, 24.57, 21.16, 23.35
(DNF) << Pop >.<

Started out good =P Meh, considering I haven't cubed in months its not bad that DNF destroyed[/B ]the average. The solve would've been about 22ish and it would've made the average a 22.xx


Back when cubing was srsbsns for me I was posting 20.xx averages. Got some work to do lol
 
@Mike: N-Perms and E-Perm USED to be LUR-algs and slow-but-steady. N-Perms are just "swap 2 diagonal pairs twice" and E-Perm is just 2 "identical" OLL's
N-Perm 1 (swap FL and BR): (L' U, R' U2 L, U' R)*2
N-Perm 2 (swap BL and FR): (L U', R U2 L', U R')*2
E-Perm: x, (R' U' L' U R U' L U), (R' U' L U R U' L' U), x'

I think it was Rowe (at least he greatly popularised it as "beast") that first decided "let's mirror those algs from LUR to URD and left-pinky the **** out of those D-moves. Until that time, everyone thought that D-moves were slow and should be avoided but now we have cubes that can be turned with a weak-left-pinky without any problem AND weak-left-pinkies have been bodybuilding into muscular powerhouses (because of OH).

@Zoe, you just got a lucky streak and I sucked. I will be sub20 again soon and you will have to keep practising. I don't understand how you can get sub20 10/12 here but not 3/5 in a real comp (Belgian Open) though. Nerves?
 
Round 105
Ignore scrambles
Average of 12: 19.66
1. 22.11 L2 B2 L B' L' B2 D' U L2 D2 R L' B2 R' L2 D L F2 U' L R' F2 R2 B L
2. 22.38 L' R' U' R2 B R2 F B2 D' R2 D' F' U' D' B2 F2 U L F2 U2 F' B U' D' B'
3. 18.35 B R' D R2 B R2 L D2 L2 B' F' L' U D' R' U' D B' R' B L R D2 B' L2
4. 17.50 B D' F' L' B2 D' R' L2 U B U' B R D2 F D2 F2 B U D' B2 F' R L U'
5. (22.42) U F2 U' F R' B2 U2 R2 B2 F' D2 B F2 U D' R B R2 U' F R2 U B L' F'
6. 17.67 F U' F D L2 F2 L' U2 L2 U' L F2 U' F U2 R2 B2 F' U' R' B' F L B L'
7. 22.16 L' D L R D' L' B D' F2 L F D' U' F2 U' L' D F2 B' D2 U2 R D2 F B2
8. 19.53 D U2 L' R U2 R' L2 U' L2 R2 F' D2 B' D' B D' F' U D F' R2 U' L F2 R'
9. 19.87 D' F B2 D2 U2 F' U D' L2 F' B2 U R' D' L U' D' B2 D B2 F' R D' F R
10. (16.05) U L U' L' R' F2 B2 U' F B2 D F' D' U2 L B' U L' B D F' U' F2 L2 D'
11. 18.48 B D' B2 L2 D' B' D U' R F B R L2 U' R' U2 D2 F' R2 F B' U L' R2 F2
12. 18.57 B2 L' F L R2 D F D2 U' F2 B R U L F' R U B2 U2 F R U D2 F L
 
AvGalen said:
@Zoe, you just got a lucky streak and I sucked. I will be sub20 again soon and you will have to keep practising. I don't understand how you can get sub20 10/12 here but not 3/5 in a real comp (Belgian Open) though. Nerves?
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Don't underestimate nerves. I had a ao100 of 16.8 or something a few days before my last comp, and my average came to be 21s, with only 2 sub 20's (19 and a 15), 1 DNF, and the rest 20-21's
 
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