Problems with teens

[Ethan Rosen]

So am I ter only one here who worships Joe Pesci?

 

[DavidWoner]

@Musli: I'm going to ignore your statements about an infinite universe. It may sound good for an early-twentieth-century scifi book, but as a cosmological model, it's severely lacking in credible evidence.

There is next to no evidence for a finite universe either.

Except the laws of physics. If you believe the universe is infinite then you cannot believe that the Big Bang happened.

If energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, that must mean that there never was any in the first place. The laws of physics seem to not support a big bang universe either.

The origin of matter/energy is a separate issue, and not really relevant to what I was saying. Currently there is no scientific explanation for the origin of matter. I was merely talking about our current universe.

If the universe is infinite, then there is infinite matter. If you believe the Big Bang occured, that means at one time there was an infinite amount of matter condensed in a single point. This would result in an infinite gravitational force, rendering the Big Bang impossible.

 

[attomo]

There is more way disproving religions than proving then. same kettle of fish as people who think aliens are real. no proof but they think they are real.

 

[nitrocan]

So am I ter only one here who worships Joe Pesci?

No no I'm with you.

Only if Carlin hadn't died...

 

[Muesli]

@Musli: I'm going to ignore your statements about an infinite universe. It may sound good for an early-twentieth-century scifi book, but as a cosmological model, it's severely lacking in credible evidence.

There is next to no evidence for a finite universe either.

Except the laws of physics. If you believe the universe is infinite then you cannot believe that the Big Bang happened.

If energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, that must mean that there never was any in the first place. The laws of physics seem to not support a big bang universe either.

The origin of matter/energy is a separate issue, and not really relevant to what I was saying. Currently there is no scientific explanation for the origin of matter. I was merely talking about our current universe.

If the universe is infinite, then there is infinite matter. If you believe the Big Bang occured, that means at one time there was an infinite amount of matter condensed in a single point. This would result in an infinite gravitational force, rendering the Big Bang impossible.

You're assuming that an incredible amount of matter just blipped into existence and exploded as the big bang. Creation of energy and matter is very relevant because how could it have happened any other way? The current physics model of energy never being destroyed/created just doesn't support the theory of the big bang.

 

[JL58]

In one of the very early responses one said "I'd love you to believe" or something of the kind. This has always bothered me with most religions: the activism around them is really irritating. For christians, this is especially strong in the US. Add to this the dependency they build (christians, islamists, etc.) with politics and you find yourself having to make decisions about society (voting) through religious influence.

Isn't religious belief a spiritual, individual, internal choice? Does it have to become a social trait?

And yet, there's much to say about the way the US found an identity around church, building a strong sense of community (even today) through "God". This has almost completely disappeared in Western Europe for instance.

 

[Dene]

Do you guys hear yourselves? This is the lamest thread I have ever seen in my life. If it weren't for the oppression of certain mods, I would have destroyed this thread a long time ago. How about an end to the misery?

 

[JL58]

On what ground?

 

[iasimp1997]

if they follow religion and they hate you because you are athiest then they are wimps... i think some people think everything is about religion..
i dont belive in religion at all its total rubbish but if people wana waste their time worshiping a made up character (god) then let them waste there time dosent bother me

Then you will go to hell. I'm a Christian, and this thread offends me and my religion. Can a moderator PLEASE CLOSE AND DELETE THIS THREAD? I'm sure some people's replies are offending to other people too. I do not plan on reading this thread anymore, and I'm reporting all replies that are offending to Christianity.

 

[4Chan]

 

[nitrocan]

if they follow religion and they hate you because you are athiest then they are wimps... i think some people think everything is about religion..
i dont belive in religion at all its total rubbish but if people wana waste their time worshiping a made up character (god) then let them waste there time dosent bother me

Then you will go to hell. I'm a Christian, and this thread offends me and my religion. Can a moderator PLEASE CLOSE AND DELETE THIS THREAD? I'm sure some people's replies are offending to other people too. I do not plan on reading this thread anymore, and I'm reporting all replies that are offending to Christianity.

Wow! So you are going to report all replies offending christianity, but not report the ones that are offending other religions? How about offending atheism?

Thanks for our hell insurance.

But this forum is too full of fanatic atheists who haven't had their share of a discussion.

 

[iasimp1997]

By the way, this thread has seriously offended me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, ATHEISTS
I have no other problems with atheists (besides the fact they don't believe in God). But I will if they post their retarded opinions on how humans "evolved" from MONKEYS (bull).


CAN A MODERATOR PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD? THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE!

 

[Muesli]

I have no other problems with atheists (besides the fact they don't believe in God). But I will if they post their retarded opinions on how humans "evolved" from MONKEYS (bull).

Sigh. Think before you post. I'm perfectly tolerant of christians but this blind dismissal of well grounded evidence is reall irritating to me. FYI we evolved form Apes.

 

[JL58]

Furthermore, censuring people because they express a different opinions than yours could lead to paths we know too well. If you don't like to hear/read about these opinions, you can always keep confined in your own microcosm. If your conviction cannot stand opposition or scrutiny it does not stand for much, whatever side you are on.

But yet again... why does it bother you that people have a different opinion than yours??? Isn't religion a personal choice? Why do you need your neighbors, your family members, your forum counterparts to either comply to your personal believes or not speak about it?

I am an atheist and have many good friends who are devoted believers. Whenever the discussion comes around religion it is cordial and constructive. And when it becomes dry we switch to other things. Because our friendship is based on the sharing of values and the acceptance of substantial differences, not compliance.

I don't think religious activists have the monopoly of speech.

 

[nitrocan]

By the way, this thread has seriously offended me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, ATHEISTS
I have no other problems with atheists (besides the fact they don't believe in God). But I will if they post their retarded opinions on how humans "evolved" from MONKEYS (bull).


CAN A MODERATOR PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD? THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE!

(BULL)

The retarded opinion as you call it, has been supported with every single fossil and experiment for over 150 years. Please don't blabber without reason.
You are the one who should think before posting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz6IxZsLwlo

 

[Cheese_Board]

By the way, this thread has seriously offended me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, ATHEISTS
I have no other problems with atheists (besides the fact they don't believe in God). But I will if they post their retarded opinions on how humans "evolved" from MONKEYS (bull).


CAN A MODERATOR PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD? THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE!

So basically you are trying to take away their freedom of religion and freedom of speech?

 

[iasimp1997]

I have no other problems with atheists (besides the fact they don't believe in God). But I will if they post their retarded opinions on how humans "evolved" from MONKEYS (bull).

Sigh. Think before you post. I'm perfectly tolerant of christians but this blind dismissal of well grounded evidence is reall irritating to me.

WELL GROUNDED EVIDENCE? BLIND DISMISSAL? You're the one to talk? Atheists believe in things like evolution because they aren't comfortable with believing in God. They automatically just adapt to "Evolutionism", and BLINDLY DISMISS Christianity and other religions as bull****.
I respect what atheists believe, just KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF.

 

[Cheese_Board]

I have no other problems with atheists (besides the fact they don't believe in God). But I will if they post their retarded opinions on how humans "evolved" from MONKEYS (bull).

Sigh. Think before you post. I'm perfectly tolerant of christians but this blind dismissal of well grounded evidence is reall irritating to me.

WELL GROUNDED EVIDENCE? BLIND DISMISSAL? You're the one to talk? Atheists believe in things like evolution because they aren't comfortable with believing in God. They automatically just adapt to "Evolutionism", and BLINDLY DISMISS Christianity and other religions as bull****.
I respect what atheists believe, just KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF.

I can't stop laughing at the irony of this post.

 

[Deleted member 2864]

if they follow religion and they hate you because you are athiest then they are wimps... i think some people think everything is about religion..
i dont belive in religion at all its total rubbish but if people wana waste their time worshiping a made up character (god) then let them waste there time dosent bother me

Then you will go to hell. I'm a Christian, and this thread offends me and my religion. Can a moderator PLEASE CLOSE AND DELETE THIS THREAD? I'm sure some people's replies are offending to other people too. I do not plan on reading this thread anymore, and I'm reporting all replies that are offending to Christianity.

Wow! So you are going to report all replies offending christianity, but not report the ones that are offending other religions? How about offending atheism?

Thanks for our hell insurance.

But this forum is too full of fanatic atheists who haven't had their share of a discussion.

I think reporting any offensive posts in general is what he'll do. I'm sorry, the theretartedcber's response was blunt, cruel, and offensive. It shows no respect to anybody with a Faith and is unnecessary in a public forum where so many cultures blend. He also offended me to a personal level. Say your beliefs, but don't crush others. Calling religion rubbish is completely inconsiderate. I can personally say that I've grown to understand myself better through prayer and thought. I doubt theretartedcuber has even had or appreciated meditation or prayer. Whether somebody is answering or listening or not, having a spiritual time to think will help understand yourself.

Once again guys, you can't go around claiming what is theory is fact. You're being exactly what religious people do, and that's proclaiming things real with no proof that zeros out any other option at all. Evidence can be strong, and I believe in many scientific subjects, but you can't call theories fact, real, or otherwise true.

By the way, this thread has seriously offended me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, ATHEISTS
I have no other problems with atheists (besides the fact they don't believe in God). But I will if they post their retarded opinions on how humans "evolved" from MONKEYS (bull).


CAN A MODERATOR PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD? THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE!

So basically you are trying to take away their freedom of religion and freedom of speech?

Nope, I think he's trying to take away a flame war before it happens



To the post below, keep it down a notch. We don't want a flamewar occurring.

 

[Muesli]

I have no other problems with atheists (besides the fact they don't believe in God). But I will if they post their retarded opinions on how humans "evolved" from MONKEYS (bull).

Sigh. Think before you post. I'm perfectly tolerant of christians but this blind dismissal of well grounded evidence is reall irritating to me.

WELL GROUNDED EVIDENCE? BLIND DISMISSAL? You're the one to talk? Atheists believe in things like evolution because they aren't comfortable with believing in God. They automatically just adapt to "Evolutionism", and BLINDLY DISMISS Christianity and other religions as bull****.
I respect what atheists believe, just KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF.

WELL GROUNDED EVIDENCE? BLIND DISMISSAL? You're the one to talk? Christians believe in god because they aren't comfortable with believeing that we evolved from apes. They automatically just adapt to "Creationism" and BLINDLY DISMISS evolution and other theories as bull****.
I respect what christians believe, just KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF.

Hey look. I took your argument and it inverts perfectly.