Petrus Method Speeds?

[byu]

For anyone who uses the Petrus method, what are your record and average times for using that method?

 

[fanwuq]

Not my main speed method.
Average 10 of 12: 00:25.52 from today.
Single was around 18 from Saturday.

 

[Radical Seal]

I haven't practiced much so something like 21 second average.

 

[ErikJ]

9.66 single and 13.41 average of 12

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

~19 seconds or so...once I get some new cubes I'm gonna consider switching to Petrus or learning some more ZBF2L algs...

2x2x2 block: 3-4 seconds
2x2x3: ~5 seconds
Edges orientation: 3 seconds
Last slots: 4 seconds
LL: 4 seconds

Just ballparking, and for LL I don't permute the corners first...just normal OLL and PLL

 

[byu]

Can I also know how long it takes you to do each step? Thank you, this will help me a lot.

 

[fanwuq]

1st block: 1.5 to 4 seconds,
2nd block: 2 to 7 seconds,
EO: 3 to 10 seconds,
F2L: 3 to 6 seconds,
OLL: 1.5-3 seconds,
PLL: 1.5-4 seconds,

Something like that, I suck at EO and 2nd block, sometimes I forget to speed up for finishing F2L and LL.

 

[Radical Seal]

2x2x2: 2.5 seconds
2x2x3: 5.5 seconds
Step 3: 2.5 seconds
Step 4: 5 seconds
LL: 7 seconds

 

[JLarsen]

PB: 14.08

Avg. 10/12: 20.00

I average about 21, and I must say seeing all of these Fridrich solvers with faster times than me with Petrus is annoying......=]

 

[rahulkadukar]

With a little bit of pratice you can easily do a sub 10 on a Petrus because you can perform a 1 Look LL.

Even the F2L only uses R and U which would speed up the solves.

 

[qqwref]

With a little bit of pratice you can easily do a sub 10 on a Petrus because you can perform a 1 Look LL.

Even the F2L only uses R and U which would speed up the solves.

I would like to see you "easily do a sub 10" with "a little bit of pratice". Please make a video of this.

 

[blah]

With a little bit of pratice you can easily do a sub 10 on a Petrus because you can perform a 1 Look LL.

Even the F2L only uses R and U which would speed up the solves.

Ropekadukar

By the way, I'd have to agree with what qqwref said about whatever you said. BS.

 

[kaixax555]

Rachmaninovian solved it in 19.90 seconds on average I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm96VXpfb50&feature=channel_page

I don't use Petrus, I use Fridrich.

 

[rachmaninovian]

that was NOT petrus

thats what I call crap method

 

[ManuK]

With a little bit of pratice you can easily do a sub 10 on a Petrus because you can perform a 1 Look LL.

Even the F2L only uses R and U which would speed up the solves.

How can you perform 1 Look LL? Using normal Petrus, you need to orient the corners and then permute the corners+edges;right?

( MGLS takes about the same time to execute as normal 2LLL and other methods require lots of algs,which in turn would require quite a lot of practise to get really good recognition and execution)?

 

[Escher]

With a little bit of pratice you can easily do a sub 10 on a Petrus because you can perform a 1 Look LL.

Even the F2L only uses R and U which would speed up the solves.

How can you perform 1 Look LL? Using normal Petrus, you need to orient the corners and then permute the corners+edges;right?

(MGLS takes about the same time as normal 2-Look AFAIK,and other methods require lots of algs,which in turn would require quite a lot of practise to get really good recognition and execution)?



And the block-building (2x2x2,2x2x3) aren't all R,U's and would take

i think that he meant that if you learn ZBLL then you can do one look LL. which is a little silly - the only real difference between ZBLL in fridrich and petrus is that the EO stage for petrus is earlier...
more likely is that he just doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[Johannes91]

the only real difference between ZBLL in fridrich and petrus is that the EO stage for petrus is earlier...

More accurately, the difference is that Petrus *has* an EO stage. If you want to use ZBLL, just use it, there's no need to modify the F2L in any way. But if you want 1-look LL for Fridrich, you have to add an EO step somewhere, like ZBF2L, VHF2L, etc. (or memorize full 1-look LL). ZBLL is much better suited for methods that naturally orient edges before getting to LL.

 

[Escher]

the only real difference between ZBLL in fridrich and petrus is that the EO stage for petrus is earlier...

More accurately, the difference is that Petrus *has* an EO stage. If you want to use ZBLL, just use it, there's no need to modify the F2L in any way. But if you want 1-look LL for Fridrich, you have to add an EO step somewhere, like ZBF2L, VHF2L, etc. (or memorize full 1-look LL). ZBLL is much better suited for methods that naturally orient edges before getting to LL.

heh, i thought you, stefan or lucas would add something to that

and i completely agree with your point about ZBLL - if you used it with ZZ, for example, its potential would be (closer to being) realised. i still think that last slot techniques like MGLS and winter variation have more 'practicability', whether or not they are 'faster' than ZBF2l/LL...