[Unofficial] Petrus 12.17 avg5

[mDiPalma]

Petrus YTUWR single, avg5

12.18, (14.27), (10.65), 12.69, 11.64 = 12.17 avg5

Four "PLL skips"

YTUWR Petrus avg5?

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Average of 5: 12.17
1. 12.18 D2 U2 F' U2 B R2 B' U2 F2 D2 B2 D' L' D L U L R' U2 B' R
2. (14.27) U B2 F2 R2 F2 D R2 U' L2 F2 D2 R' U2 B F' D' L U B F' L'
3. (10.65) D2 B2 L2 D R2 U2 B2 R2 F2 R2 U' F' L2 R' D2 L2 B F' L' U' B'
4. 12.69 U2 B2 R2 D F R2 B' U' R D R' B2 U2 R2 F2 D2 L' F2 R' D2 F2
5. 11.64 B2 R2 U2 B2 D F2 D L2 U2 F2 D2 L B2 D' L2 B' L U' R2 D'

 

[stoic]

Nice!

 

[mDiPalma]

Nice!

ty bro

8.55 YTUWR single?

troll annotations tho

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1. 8.55 B2 D2 L2 D2 B L2 B2 D2 F' L2 B' L B' F2 U2 B' D U' B' L

 

[Renslay]

That is pretty amazing!

 

[antoineccantin]

Is Petrus your main method?

 

[TDM]

troll annotations tho

Haha, funniest thing I've seen in a while.

Is Petrus your main method?

No, he uses ZZ (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

[mDiPalma]

No, he uses ZZ (correct me if I'm wrong).

true dat

Petrus for Lent
ZZ for Life

 

[TDM]

true dat

Petrus for Lent
ZZ for Life

I'm doing nothing for Lent, CFOP for life... I hate CFOP, but it's the only method I'm good at, even after quite a bit of practising with ZZ (can't look ahead) and Roux (I'm very inefficient). I've been trying some Petrus recently (i.e. since watching these videos), and I have two major problems (ignoring lookahead, that comes later): firstly, my EO recog for edges in DL/DR and BL/BR sucks. Do you do an L2/R2 to recog them, or do you have a way of doing that and avoiding any extra moves? Secondly, I can't build blocks. I fail so much. Could you give me any tips for efficient blocks?

 

[mDiPalma]

firstly, my EO recog for edges in DL/DR and BL/BR sucks. Do you do an L2/R2 to recog them, or do you have a way of doing that and avoiding any extra moves?

I'm a bit confused at what you mean by DL/DR and BL/BR. Do you mean that you solve the EO with the solved block on the left/right? That's a cool idea.

I always solve EO on the front such that the solved 3x2x2 is centered at DB. When it comes to recognition, a bad edge is an edge that can't be matched up with its center in 1 move, although I'm sure you already know that.

Because I have history in ZZ, I always solve a 3x2x2 block that is "parallel" with my solving orientation in that the bad edges I will inevitably have to flip will be the same as the bad edges from my ZZ orientation. 90% of the time, this means I start with the yellow-orange 3x2x2 (the DL side of my ZZ solving orientation), put that at DB, recog my ZZ bad-edges, solve them, rotate, and spam my ZZ finish.

Basically, for anyone with a background in ZZ I recommend:
-solving whatever 2x2x2 is easiest
-rotating the cube such that your standard U/D ZZ color OF THAT SOLVED 2x2x2 is on D
-rotating the solved 2x2x2 such that your standard F/B ZZ color OF THAT 2x2x2 is on B
-spam RUF to solve the front 2x2x1 and create your ZZ-congruent 3x2x2
-place that 3x2x2 in the back and spam RUF to kill all the ZZ-bad edges (as if you did eoline inspection from the side) [or you can solve the EO from your zz-orientation, which is less ergonomic, but saves 2 rotations]
-finish

Could you give me any tips for efficient blocks?

Make a 2x2x2 block right now, and do 3-4 random moves to it, observing the effect that your random moves had, then undo them.
Do that a bunch of times with other move combinations.
Try to think how you can force one of those "nearly-solved" states during Petrus inspection time, then solve that state with one of the 3 move "algs" that you created.

Good luck!

Btw, if anything I wrote doesn't make sense, just point it out and I'll explain it better.

I can make a "Petrus for ZZ-ers" video guide if need be. lol

 

[Cool Frog]

Make a 2x2x2 block right now, and do 3-4 random moves to it, observing the effect that your random moves had, then undo them.
Do that a bunch of times with other move combinations.
Try to think how you can force one of those "nearly-solved" states during Petrus inspection time, then solve that state with one of the 3 move "algs" that you created.

On my from what I have seen on the forum, this nugget of information is really useful IMO.

 

[TDM]

~post~

Wow, thanks! That's quite a lot to look through and I have school now, but I'll keep this page open and take a look at it when I have time. My thoughts not in much detail because I don't have a lot of time:
Yep, I just keep it held whichever way I solve it.
I solve EO with the block on DL/DR because then the F2L is easier and you don't have to rotate. The issue I have with recognising misoriented edges is that I can't see them with the way I hold the block...
I'm y-axis neutral with ZZ, so that'll probably make it a lot easier as I don't have do decide which orientation to use; I could just do whatever.
I forgot about holding the 2x2x2 in DBL and using RUF :fp My blocks including rotating a lot and doing a lot of L moves.
I'll choose less rotations over ergonomics. My rotations are slow.

What you said about the 2x2x2 block is really useful, thanks. I'll definitely try that. I think I remember seeing that before, but not for months. I'd forgotten it completely. It might even have been you that said it...

 

[CriticalCubing]

Hey What is your Youtube?
and awesome avg. I avg 24 sec with Petrus with CFOP being my main (sub 20)
I am planning on doing tutorials for Petrus but do you have any tutorials?
Waiting in anticipation for your reply...

 

[mDiPalma]

Hey What is your Youtube?
and awesome avg. I avg 24 sec with Petrus with CFOP being my main (sub 20)
I am planning on doing tutorials for Petrus but do you have any tutorials?
Waiting in anticipation for your reply...

https://www.youtube.com/user/MDiPL0X

I don't have any Petrus tutorials yet, but I've considered making either an "Advanced Petrus Concepts" or a "Petrus for ZZ-ers" short video guide (<5 minutes max).