Oriented LSLL

[CubingGenius]

I tried generating some LSLL algorithms, but the algorithms are generally a lot worse than PLL and ZBLL. Does anyone think that inserting the last F2L corner and solving the rest in one algorithm would be a good idea? Even if there are a few thousand cases, I would consider learning at least part of it if it would be useful.

 

[Jaysammey777]

Try CTLS

 

[CubingGenius]

Try CTLS

What is that? Is it the second step of ZZ-CT?

 

[Cale S]

What is that? Is it the second step of ZZ-CT?

It's like this:

scramble: U' R U R' U' R' D' R U R' D R U R U R' U

U' R // pseudo F2L
U R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U' R' F' // ZBLL
U2 R' U' // fix

 

[CubingGenius]

It's like this:

scramble: U' R U R' U' R' D' R U R' D R U R U R' U

U' R // pseudo F2L
U R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U' R' F' // ZBLL
U2 R' U' // fix

That looks quite interesting. So you basically do set up moves into a ZBLL and then undo the set up moves?

A few questions:

What are the algorithms like compared to directly solving it?

Is there a place I can find all these algorithms, or do I have to work them out on my own?

Can any LSLL case be solved efficiently by using this method?

 

[Jaysammey777]

Oops I meant zz-ct with tsle and ttll

Mah bad

 

[CubingGenius]

Oops I meant zz-ct with tsle and ttll

Mah bad

I was talking about solving LSLL in 1 algorithm, not 2.

 

[Cale S]

I was talking about solving LSLL in 1 algorithm, not 2.

What do you have solved already in LSLL?

 

[CubingGenius]

What do you have solved already in LSLL?

I only have EO solved when I get to LS.

 

[Cale S]

I only have EO solved when I get to LS.

In that case ZZ-CT is about as close as you can get to an optimal alg count for 2-look LSLL
Using any less than 191 algs isn't enough to cover all ZZ LSLL cases, and ZZ-CT uses less than 200

Other 2-look alternatives are ZBLL (500ish algs) or OLS (500ish algs)
For 1-look LSLL, I haven't calculated the exact number of algs needed, but it's over 36,000

 

[shadowslice e]

You could try L2L

 

[CubingGenius]

In that case ZZ-CT is about as close as you can get to an optimal alg count for 2-look LSLL
Using any less than 191 algs isn't enough to cover all ZZ LSLL cases, and ZZ-CT uses less than 200

Other 2-look alternatives are ZBLL (500ish algs) or OLS (500ish algs)
For 1-look LSLL, I haven't calculated the exact number of algs needed, but it's over 36,000

I'm not too interested in other 1LLL methods other than ZBLL. I was just trying to find out how much other people had learned of it.

You could try L2L

I assume that means solving the last two layers at once? I'm more trying to find out information for LSLL when the edges are already oriented.