OH Method Debate

[NevEr_QeyX]

I hope that's sattire Satire, because that's completely and entirely wrong.

What I really hate is in when debates, as soon as I'm winning, some people will just try to change the subject or just use irony to make arguing useless.

Haha isn't that ironic? So how's the weather in virginia?

 

[Sub1Hour]

its because there arent many roux solvers that do 7x7. its just proof that m slices work on big cubes

here is the fastest roux solve on 7x7 (meyer)

So you are telling me that Tymon kolasinski, One of the fastest CFOP users in the world, has the Meyer 7x7 WR? I also would like to mention that this Meyer solves on 7x7 is ALMOST 1 MINUTE SLOWER then his real PB (2:05 vs 2:51). This is by far the strongest evidence that Meyer is an awful big cube method.

 

[mukerflap]

So you are telling me that Tymon kolasinski, One of the fastest CFOP users in the world, has the Meyer 7x7 WR? I also would like to mention that this Meyer solves on 7x7 is ALMOST 1 MINUTE SLOWER then his real PB (2:05 vs 2:51). This is by far the strongest evidence that Meyer is an awful big cube method.

when did i say meyer was a good method? i literally didnt mention it anywhere, you could just do reduction into roux.

 

[ProStar]

when did i say meyer was a good method? i literally didnt mention it anywhere, you could just do reduction into roux.

That's even worse for 4x4, and either way M-slices SUCK for big cubes. There's no opinion on this subject, doing M slices on large cubes fast is impossible

 

[Micah Morrison]

when did i say meyer was a good method? i literally didnt mention it anywhere, you could just do reduction into roux.

tbh I think anyone who averages x seconds with roux could quickly become within 2-3 seconds of that average if they committed to CFOP for a week-3 weeks and then, boom, their 3x3 stage is already better.

 

[mukerflap]

That's even worse for 4x4, and either way M-slices SUCK for big cubes. There's no opinion on this subject, doing M slices on large cubes fast is impossible

did you not watch the clip i showed you? m slices are not hard on 7x7

 

[Nmile7300]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we get back on topic!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Micah Morrison]

That's even worse for 4x4, and either way M-slices SUCK for big cubes. There's no opinion on this subject, doing M slices on large cubes fast is impossible

I think it's possible but very risky and often isn't fast.

 

[Cuberstache]

I think you guys can take this big cube stuff to the method debate thread

 

[ProStar]

tbh I think anyone who averages x seconds with roux could quickly become within 2-3 seconds of that average if they committed to CFOP for a week-3 weeks and then, boom, their 3x3 stage is already better.

I think that anyone using Roux/ZZ or something similar should just use CFOP for big cubes, it makes it so much easier. Kian is around 12 seconds with CFOP(3x3) with basically no practice, and Phil uses Yau(which uses CFOP on 3x3 stage) for 4x4

did you not watch the clip i showed you? m slices are not hard on 7x7

Do an MU H-Perm or any MU alg on a 7x7 and tell me what time you got

 

[mukerflap]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we get back on topic!!!!!!!!!!

its really not that bad you just dont have to look at this thread

 

[mukerflap]

I think that anyone using Roux/ZZ or something similar should just use CFOP for big cubes, it makes it so much easier. Kian is around 12 seconds with CFOP(3x3) with basically no practice, and Phil uses Yau(which uses CFOP on 3x3 stage) for 4x4



Do an MU H-Perm or any MU alg on a 7x7 and tell me what time you got

he is very clearly having no trouble doing lse on 7x7. i dont have a 7x7 so i cant talk about it

 

[Sub1Hour]

i dont have a 7x7 so i cant talk about it

Then why are you trying to convince us that M moves are easy on 7x7 if you have not even tried it?

 

[mukerflap]

Then why are you trying to convince us that M moves are easy on 7x7 if you have not even tried it?

because i can see other people turning fast on it, and i can do LSE sub 3 on my outdated unlubed 5x5 non magnetic

 

[Sub1Hour]

because i can see other people turning fast on it, and i can do LSE sub 3 on my outdated unlubed 5x5 non magnetic

"I see all of the world records for OH on CFOP and since other people are doing it then it must be the best"
According to your logic, CFOP is indeed the best OH method

 

[mukerflap]

"I see all of the world records for OH on CFOP and since other people are doing it then it must be the best"
According to your logic, CFOP is indeed the best OH method

no, saying whether a method is good or not is so much different than being able to do M moves on 7x7. You have literally been objectively proven wrong here and you cannot accept it. M move are very possible on 7x7 and i have given video proof. When i can actually go to a comp and try a good 7x7 i could record a sub 3 LSE ao12

 

[Nmile7300]

its really not that bad you just dont have to look at this thread

Actually it is. The last 2 and a half pages are basically all about Roux for big cubes, when the topic is supposed to be about OH. And yes I know, I don't have to look at the thread, but trust me, I'm not doing this for myself. I want people to be able to have an on topic debate about OH methods without sifting through pages of off topic stuff.

 

[Micah Morrison]

What would be a good experiment to decide whether M moves are good on big cubes or not? It seems like I can do MU U Perms and RU U perms about the same speed but MU has fewer moves. But MU U perms are more risky so it's probably better to just do RU.

 

[Sub1Hour]

no, saying whether a method is good or not is so much different than being able to do M moves on 7x7.

But according to you if someone else does it then everyone else can just as well? Is that not what you meant in this post?

because i can see other people turning fast on it

You have literally been objectively proven wrong here and you cannot accept it.

I have something for you my friend

Seriously, how have I been proven wrong on what topic?

 

[Cuberstache]

Guys, do you even see @Nmile7300 's posts asking you to stay on-topic?