Official WR average has gone! (10.07)

[Tim Major]

I pointed this out an a few minutes before you posted this thread.

Congratulations!

Thanks, glad to get the recognition I desire.

lol.

Regarding the issue, I think that the WCA regulations are not clear enough, and will be more specific once this is all sorted.

It is a shame that this happened right before worlds, and puts alot of pressure on Tomasz.

Makes your job easier though. Pity the Melbourne Comp won't be for ages. Will you go to another NZ comp in the mean time?

 

[Faz]

Erm, no, the melbourne comp will be before the next NZ comp?

 

[AvGalen]

I pointed this out an a few minutes before you posted this thread.

Congratulations!

Thanks, glad to get the recognition I desire.

lol.

Regarding the issue, I think that the WCA regulations are not clear enough, and will be more specific once this is all sorted.

It is a shame that this happened right before worlds, and puts alot of pressure on Tomasz.

Why does it put a lot of pressure on Tomasz? He found out that he could break his own WR by a large margin.
It also warned him that he should be more careful with his start. Something I am pretty sure he has tested, practiced and improved this week.
If this incident prevents him from getting DNF-ed at Worlds...it was worth it!

 

[Erik]

I agree, it only puts more pressure on the other cubers since they know what Tomasz can do.
2 nights ago I had a nightmare about the finals of WC. The first 3 times were so-so, then on the 4th solve I got a 14.xx solve and was so angry at myself that I threw my cube at the ground breaking it.
As a result I had to find a new cube for the 5th solve, after hours of searching and being mad at myself for not controlling myself, I finally found a cube I could use (AvG's sucky F type), went to Ron to give the cube, but found out the competition already finished without me.

 

[tim]

2 nights ago I had a nightmare about the finals of WC. The first 3 times were so-so, then on the 4th solve I got a 14.xx solve and was so angry at myself that I threw my cube at the ground breaking it.
As a result I had to find a new cube for the 5th solve, after hours of searching and being mad at myself for not controlling myself, I finally found a cube I could use (AvG's sucky F type), went to Ron to give the cube, but found out the competition already finished without me.
The 'only' good thing about the dream was waking up next to my gf

I had a very similar dream. But instead of breaking my cube, i forgot one of my 20 cubes at home and couldn't borrow one from another cuber for multi bld (i don't know why). After hours of searching... Yeah, you know the end...

 

[AvGalen]

2 nights ago I had a nightmare about the finals of WC. The first 3 times were so-so, then on the 4th solve I got a 14.xx solve and was so angry at myself that I threw my cube at the ground breaking it.
As a result I had to find a new cube for the 5th solve, after hours of searching and being mad at myself for not controlling myself, I finally found a cube I could use (AvG's sucky F type), went to Ron to give the cube, but found out the competition already finished without me.
The 'only' good thing about the dream was waking up next to my gf

I had a very similar dream. ...... Yeah, you know the end...

You woke up next to Eriks gf?

 

[Mr Cubism]

I think that most of the top cubers hope that the 10.07 record shall be deleted (even if they don´t admit it), that will really increase their own chances to break the "old" 10.63 WR.

 

[tim]

2 nights ago I had a nightmare about the finals of WC. The first 3 times were so-so, then on the 4th solve I got a 14.xx solve and was so angry at myself that I threw my cube at the ground breaking it.
As a result I had to find a new cube for the 5th solve, after hours of searching and being mad at myself for not controlling myself, I finally found a cube I could use (AvG's sucky F type), went to Ron to give the cube, but found out the competition already finished without me.
The 'only' good thing about the dream was waking up next to my gf

I had a very similar dream. ...... Yeah, you know the end...

You woke up next to Eriks gf?

*pssst*!

 

[Crazycubemom]

Does anyone got interesting about Erik woke up next to his gf or gf(s) whatever ?

 

[Nykjær]

2 nights ago I had a nightmare about the finals of WC. The first 3 times were so-so, then on the 4th solve I got a 14.xx solve and was so angry at myself that I threw my cube at the ground breaking it.
As a result I had to find a new cube for the 5th solve, after hours of searching and being mad at myself for not controlling myself, I finally found a cube I could use (AvG's sucky F type), went to Ron to give the cube, but found out the competition already finished without me.
The 'only' good thing about the dream was waking up next to my gf

I had a very similar dream. ...... Yeah, you know the end...

You woke up next to Eriks gf?

Ha, that one made me smile... (and btw AvG's type F is good... furthermore is Tomasz not using type F? Might be the way to beat him...)
On topic: I have to say that because it ended out being a WR it should be removed as an average and i would think that Tomasz himself want's a WR that no one could question rather than a questionable one...
I do have several angles on this topic but it is hard to write about legal matter when English ain't that easy for me...

 

[joey]

Arnaud's type F... ewww.

 

[cmhardw]

Arnaud's type F... ewww.

Poor Arnaud :-( I have never tried this infamous type F. Arnaud my curiosity is piqued now! Perhaps at the end of the event, after you've competed, I might be able to give it a try?

Chris

 

[Tyson]

I love just stepping away from the forums for a little awhile.

 

[Piotr]

Why does it put a lot of pressure on Tomasz?

Try to do a good solve, when you have to focus on timer and your hands.

He found out that he could break his own WR by a large margin.

I agree, but he also found out that his result will be put under control everytime he will break a wr. And that's why he is under pressure.

 

[pjk]

http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=814

 

[Lucas]

-Tomasz Zolnowski's 10.07 average will stand as the new world record. We caution all competitors to be extremely vigilant regarding starting the solving phase while utilizing the current timers. In addition, the WCA is in the process of designing a new timer that will hopefully alleviate some of these concerns.

For the upcoming world championships in Dusseldorf, Germany, timer stoppages at 0.06 seconds and greater will likely be considered accidental stoppages by the competitor as opposed to a timer malfunction, and an extra attempt will not be awarded unless there is evidence to suggest that the competitor did not contribute to the timer stoppage.

I want to see that new timer. I think that a timer with heat and pressure combination would be enough, provided that they can be tested (especially pressure), with some display that show the sensor behaviour.

What I wonder... which would be the evidence that suggest that competitor doesn't contribute to a timer stoppage? A video (so they will instantly check and make a decision)? Delegates/judge thoughts maybe?

 

[AvGalen]

Why does it put a lot of pressure on Tomasz?

Try to do a good solve, when you have to focus on timer and your hands.

He found out that he could break his own WR by a large margin.

I agree, but he also found out that his result will be put under control everytime he will break a wr. And that's why he is under pressure.

he doesn't have to focus on timer and hands. Focus should obviously be on solving. Starting and stopping should be second nature for him, just like for everyone else. It is not like he is the only one that can have bad starts. Circumstances are the same for everyone, just like it should be.

Competitors should do their thing and so should judges.

I would also like to compliment everyone for showing that we can discuss issues like this in a reasonable matter while staying on topic (well, mostly. Apparantly eriks gf is the best thing since sliced bread and my cube is the worst thing since....boybands???)

 

[kickinwing2112]

good for Tomasz Zolnowski, and his new wr!

 

[Erik]

Why does it put a lot of pressure on Tomasz?

Try to do a good solve, when you have to focus on timer and your hands.

He found out that he could break his own WR by a large margin.

I agree, but he also found out that his result will be put under control everytime he will break a wr. And that's why he is under pressure.

That's not right to say something like that I think, sorry to say. You make it sound like the WCA is constantly following him to be able to knock him out when he makes a 'mistake'.
They would investigate this no matter who it was and they made a good and fair decision in my opinion.
The reason he is under pressure is because he is world record holder, European champion and the top favorite to win 3x3.

@Avg: your cube wouldn't be that bad. Everyone who doesn't raise his hand after the question: "do you secretly listen to the backstreet boys?" is a lier! (besides me of course....
I listen to westlife )

 

[Tyson]

-Tomasz Zolnowski's 10.07 average will stand as the new world record. We caution all competitors to be extremely vigilant regarding starting the solving phase while utilizing the current timers. In addition, the WCA is in the process of designing a new timer that will hopefully alleviate some of these concerns.

For the upcoming world championships in Dusseldorf, Germany, timer stoppages at 0.06 seconds and greater will likely be considered accidental stoppages by the competitor as opposed to a timer malfunction, and an extra attempt will not be awarded unless there is evidence to suggest that the competitor did not contribute to the timer stoppage.

I want to see that new timer. I think that a timer with heat and pressure combination would be enough, provided that they can be tested (especially pressure), with some display that show the sensor behaviour.

What I wonder... which would be the evidence that suggest that competitor doesn't contribute to a timer stoppage? A video (so they will instantly check and make a decision)? Delegates/judge thoughts maybe?

Heat and pressure sensor? Why not just a simple button?

Or are the effects of prolonged exposure to the super-colliding super-button not an element of this test?