Metronome discussion thread

Just for fun I used the metronome only for the cross (on buttom). It must be a lot af tecnique in this. Some of the turns are (for me) very difficult (impossible)to do in 120BPM, examle: D2 B2 R B´D´F´L´. And a small miss in the accuracy and the cube locks = 120BPM noway.
I really hope it will comes with tons and tons of practice.....I only avarage around 40 sec for the whole cube for the moment.

I think that if you can´t do a certain cramble 120BPM you can not do the cross 120BPM either. Metronome + scramble can be something to train for speeding up the cross.
 
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Well, since it's here already, I may as well say that I can usually get up to Allegro with no problem. Presto is quite difficult, but I've done it once or twice.
 
Metronome speed for scramble.....

Metronome for scramble.....anybody tried? Experience?

I shall train it to get more accurate turns whenever it needs (cross especially).
 
I can easily plan a perfect(with my knowledge) f2l at speeds below 120 bpms. At 150+ bpms I start skipping beats.
For training purposes which speed do you think is the best speed to train with, a speed where you can choose the easiest cases and do a really good f2l, or as fast as possible without skipping beats?
 
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05-05-2009

big difference

and....?
Instead of creating new similiar threads.......

well, id rather have a new thread than reviving a 2 year old thread...


Okay, I shall think about that.

Don't. You did what most people (including pjk) would prefer.

And yes, you should count cross as part of the F2L.
I can get to just under 2 TPS flawlessly. Working on it though.
 
I tried 40, and then 60, and then 80, and then 100, and 160! :P

I could do 160 for the most part, but I think I missed 3 or 4 beats...

Regardless of how fast anyone can get, though, it's always best to start slow, and get going. It will help your F2L by starting out a slow paste. If you didn't, how would you train your look ahead better?
 
How fast is considered good on the metronome?

I've been using a metronome to improve my look ahead in the f2l.
I can solve the f2l with no pauses at 160 beats per minute.
Should I practice on the metronome more or should I work on turning speed?
I average about 24 seconds but I feel it is no longer the lookahead that is slowing me down, my last layer is about 10 seconds and my f2l not including the cross is about 11 to 13 seconds. My cross is about 3 seconds.
I realize that it is probably difficult to advise me of this without a video but unfortunatley I lack a webcam. Any help would be appreciated.
 
I've been using a metronome to improve my look ahead in the f2l.
I can solve the f2l with no pauses at 160 beats per minute.
Should I practice on the metronome more or should I work on turning speed?
I average about 24 seconds but I feel it is no longer the lookahead that is slowing me down, my last layer is about 10 seconds and my f2l not including the cross is about 11 to 13 seconds. My cross is about 3 seconds.
I realize that it is probably difficult to advise me of this without a video but unfortunatley I lack a webcam. Any help would be appreciated.

Lol, that is almost the exact breakdown in time I have, except my cross is really slow. (6-7 seconds) Other than that you match me perfectly. I need to improve my cross.
 
I've been using a metronome to improve my look ahead in the f2l.
I can solve the f2l with no pauses at 160 beats per minute.
Should I practice on the metronome more or should I work on turning speed?
I average about 24 seconds but I feel it is no longer the lookahead that is slowing me down, my last layer is about 10 seconds and my f2l not including the cross is about 11 to 13 seconds. My cross is about 3 seconds.
I realize that it is probably difficult to advise me of this without a video but unfortunatley I lack a webcam. Any help would be appreciated.
If you're still using a metronome and you're at 160 then I think you should continue to practice steady turning with look ahead, but without a metronome. From around 120 and higher on the metronome, the beats kind of distract you, so you should probably just continue to practice the same technique but without a metronome.

I think your Cross + F2L is pretty good. Your last layer isn't though, get faster at the algorithms and recognition.
 
Metronome Expirement Results and Questions

I've just experimented using the Metronome and not using it while cubing and I have found a vast difference. First, I cubed without metronome or any music, and I got several sub-27 average of five's. Next, I turned the metronome to 60 (from http://www.metronomeonline.com/) and got several averages that were actually slower (sub-30's) than my average. I think it was so because I was going too slow (60 is very slow) to match the metronome. Then I tried 80, but it was still a fail. Then I raised it to about 110. From then on, my times increased a bit by bit (averages). I finally got to 160, where I averaged around sub-24. I wanted to ask all of you if you had the same result using a metronome. Plus I want to RECOMMEND YOU TO USE A METRONOME!
This helps for look ahead and good tps (turns per seconds). For beginners, this is the perfect way to get faster. First, start at 60, then SLOWLY! Also, try using the new Bellon timer from here or from here. The reason I recommend you these two timers is because they show a chart that shows you all you have done from the beginning of your records. Try it out and you'll see good results.
Question: What is your average and what metronome do you (the one that fits you the best)?
 
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Your second link is not working for me. I plan to try this metronome experiment sometime soon, but the three or so solves I tried using it, the clicking of the metronome really threw me off :/
 
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