Memory Methods

[fastcubesolver]

visual, occasional numbering for harder cases, cycle method.

 

[RussianWhiteBoi]

Hi

I have a question concerning the journey method. I've been trying to use it, but find that if I do a lot of solves in a row I tend to confuse a past solve with my current one. Does anyone have this problem? Do I need to use different routes, or what?

 

[RyanReese09]

Yes, you should try and use different routes for different solves.

Though it's only 3BLD, it's not that much information. You could try just making sentences if you desire (audio the corners too)

I used to use images for 3bld, and it was slow and bad. Sentences edges and audio corners worked very nicely for me.

 

[sa11297]

what method is considered the fastest? i currently use visual (tapping) and i would like to switch now if i will ever need to.

 

[RyanReese09]

There is no "fastest" memo method. It's whatever works for you. There are people who use visual and are very fast.

 

[sa11297]

There is no "fastest" memo method. It's whatever works for you. There are people who use visual and are very fast.

well I mean gow for 3x3 fridrich doesn't have to be the fastest but it pretty much is. so what is the "fridrich" of bld memo? (if that made sense)

 

[RyanReese09]

I understand what you mean. But really there is no "fridrich"...I guess you could consider sentences edges and audio corners to be extremely fast (aron uses it). But the WR holder uses pure audio. Ville uses a combination of visual and other stuff to memo. Haiyan uses some sort of letting thing. I tried asking on IRC what he uses but that was the best response I got.

I personally recommend sentences edges and audio corners. It's nice.

 

[JonnyWhoopes]

I personally recommend sentences edges and audio corners. It's nice.

On the go sentences, or predetermined by letter pair lists?

 

[RyanReese09]

On the go sentences, or predetermined by letter pair lists?

Predetermined letter pairs. It's a huge list I had to learn, but I BLD so I did it.

It's nice though because you never have that fear that you can't think of something good.

 

[sa11297]

Predetermined letter pairs. It's a huge list I had to learn, but I BLD so I did it.

It's nice though because you never have that fear that you can't think of something good.

for the sentences and audio corners... you are going to have to explain. I have read a little about different methods involving sentences but I am not sure which one this is. for audio i am completely in the dark.

 

[RyanReese09]

Basically you give a letter to all the edges (and all the corners since audio) of the cube.

You basically just memo the stickers of your memo (if you use visual, it's the same as the sticker tapping, just memo the letter though associated).

So your edge memo could be. CHJPMIOLVR

You'd turn that into a sentence. Most would just use one long sentence. I'm nub and make a sentence per 4 letters. So my memo is

Chris Hardwick punching JigglyPuff
Milk being poured over Olives
Velocoraptor jerkin off (spelling)

Audio is sorta the same, just letter all the corner stickers. When you get the lettesr, make sounds out of them (CH would be CHHHHHH, that sound). Your brain has something called the 10 second auditory loop. It helps with conversations. You can remember the last sounds you heard for 10 seconds, it helps when you have a conversation. You don't have to work at it and everyone has it (I should really do proper audio, (random comment)).

Just say the sounds real fast, and put on blindfold and solve fast. As long as you memo sub10 and solve (I keep repeating the sounds to make it stick) you'll never forget them.

 

[sa11297]

Basically you give a letter to all the edges (and all the corners since audio) of the cube.

You basically just memo the stickers of your memo (if you use visual, it's the same as the sticker tapping, just memo the letter though associated).

So your edge memo could be. CHJPMIOLVR

You'd turn that into a sentence. Most would just use one long sentence. I'm nub and make a sentence per 4 letters. So my memo is

Chris Hardwick punching JigglyPuff
Milk being poured over Olives
Velocoraptor jerkin off (spelling)

Audio is sorta the same, just letter all the corner stickers. When you get the lettesr, make sounds out of them (CH would be CHHHHHH, that sound). Your brain has something called the 10 second auditory loop. It helps with conversations. You can remember the last sounds you heard for 10 seconds, it helps when you have a conversation. You don't have to work at it and everyone has it (I should really do proper audio, (random comment)).

Just say the sounds real fast, and put on blindfold and solve fast. As long as you memo sub10 and solve (I keep repeating the sounds to make it stick) you'll never forget them.

intersting... the problem is with the sentence making I get stuck sometimes and cant think of anything. maybe it comes with practice. I will try that audio thing. sounds cool. (get it)

 

[RussianWhiteBoi]

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

I'm going to try the audio loop thing. Any suggested letter scheme? (I do O/P seperately so no need for 24 letters) Also, would you recommend using the same letters for corners as edges?

thanks

 

[sa11297]

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

I'm going to try the audio loop thing. Any suggested letter scheme? (I do O/P seperately so no need for 24 letters) Also, would you recommend using the same letters for corners as edges?

thanks

http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Speffz

 

[RyanReese09]

intersting... the problem is with the sentence making I get stuck sometimes and cant think of anything. maybe it comes with practice. I will try that audio thing. sounds cool. (get it)

My sentences always involve some sexual or violent act. That's what it should be. Given that, just come up with a few scenarios. My letter pairs are almost all objects. Works nicely. It'll come with practice.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

I'm going to try the audio loop thing. Any suggested letter scheme? (I do O/P seperately so no need for 24 letters) Also, would you recommend using the same letters for corners as edges?

thanks

If you use A-X for edges, use A-X for corners. So yes.

 

[clifford2704]

ugh so confused

 

[Cubenovice]

ugh so confused

Yes, it can be. But eventually you will see the light.

Nice to see that you are actually reading through this stuff.
If you are just starting out in BLD you may want to start with an "easy" memo system.

 

[collinbxyz]

Yes, it can be. But eventually you will see the light.

Nice to see that you are actually reading through this stuff.
If you are just starting out in BLD you may want to start with an "easy" memo system.

For example...?

 

[Cubenovice]

For example...?

Copied from one of my posts in another BLD thread:

A "simple" way to get started without having to prepare 500+ images is the following:
Prepare a list with the 24 possible color combinations and attach an image to each of them.

Base the images on the actual colors of the pieces, the target sticker bing the predominant color in the image
orange - green = carrot this is the orange sticker on the orange-green edge (orange vegetable with some green loaf)
green - orange = parrot this is the green stacker on the same edge (green bird with an orange beak)

You can use the same images for your corners (make sure to read them all clockwise)
carrot: this is the orange sticker on the orange-green-yellow corner
parrot: this is the green sticker on the green-orange-white corner

24 images is all you need ;-)

BUT!!!
In this single-image system the actual story you have to memorise during the solve is twice as long as in the letter-pair method

This is a way to quickly set up a scheme for practicing BLD, in the mean time you can work on the 500+ list for letter-pairs.

Offcourse you can read "images" as "words".
Just make a story featuring the words.

This is what I used when I started BLD and it got me my first successes.
Some more images:
white-green: my bathroom (mostly white tiles, some green)
green-white: flowers (mostly green, some white)
You get the idea.

Easy because:
Short list of words
No need to assign (and remember) a number or letter scheme to your stickers; the words contain the color info

Now I use letter-pair images. Each sticker has its own letter.
I made a list with ~ 700 words for all possible letter-pair combinations. (for some letter pairs I have multiple words).
I go through (and edit) my list occasionally in the Anki flashcard program.

 

[riffz]

Don't use colours. Use a lettering scheme. You can still use one image per letter.