Memory Methods

[Noahaha]

For those who have a memorization around 10-15sec : Do you repeat your memo (particurarily the edges) during the solve of corners ? My memo is pretty fast and in one time, but when i finish solve of the corners, I have often forgotten the memo of edges, so how can I remember of it ?

edit : I use letter pair words, and a series of letters/numbers for corners

The way I deal with some this is to memo edges second and solve them first so that I can use audio for them, but your problem can probably be fixed by memoing corners faster.

EDIT: and yes, you may have to repeat your edge memo during corners (or at least refresh it).

 

[Ickathu]

i did this with locations from the mmorpg Runescape. Worked pretty nicely, but i havent enough use for loci method since i cant do big cubes BLD and need too long for MBLD

Oh my gosh runescape.

You're brilliant.
THAT MAP IS HUGE! And I've played the game so much I can totally imagine myself walking all over the map, all the details (castles, banks, stores). Oh man. Fally and Varrock are HUGE too. I'm serious, that is a genius idea.

 

[Martial]

but your problem can probably be fixed by memoing corners faster.

I memo corners in 3-5sec, and solve them in 15-20sec

When i make a comm, it takes me about 3 seconds, you think that I would be able to refresh edges during this time, or I must refresh edges in several times, a little bit during each comm ?

 

[Mollerz]

Oh my gosh runescape.

You're brilliant.
THAT MAP IS HUGE! And I've played the game so much I can totally imagine myself walking all over the map, all the details (castles, banks, stores). Oh man. Fally and Varrock are HUGE too. I'm serious, that is a genius idea.

WELL I CERTAINLY KNOW WHERE MY NEXT MULTIBLIND JOURNEYS ARE!

Holy **** WoW map... o_o

 

[Noahaha]

I memo corners in 3-5sec, and solve them in 15-20sec

When i make a comm, it takes me about 3 seconds, you think that I would be able to refresh edges during this time, or I must refresh edges in several times, a little bit during each comm ?

I am not experienced in the wide world of corners first, but I think the best advice is to do whatever you need to do to remember edges for now, and as time goes on it'll get easier. You do memo corners fast enough, so that's fine. Perhaps start by reviewing edge memo every corner comm, then once you're comfortable with that, review them every other comm. Then if that's easy too review them just once during corners, and so on.

 

[Ickathu]

WELL I CERTAINLY KNOW WHERE MY NEXT MULTIBLIND JOURNEYS ARE!

Holy **** WoW map... o_o

Never played WoW. If only I owned Skyrim. I've played it a few times at a friends house, but not enough to be able to use those maps.

I'm totally gonna start playing runescape again to refresh the maps a little bit. If anyone wants to add me, I'm Ickathu, zot98 (?) and dragmon60.

 

[Martial]

Perhaps start by reviewing edge memo every corner comm, then once you're comfortable with that, review them every other comm. Then if that's easy too review them just once during corners, and so on.

Very good advice, thanks ! I'll try this way

 

[Noahaha]

Never played WoW. If only I owned Skyrim. I've played it a few times at a friends house, but not enough to be able to use those maps.

I'm totally gonna start playing runescape again to refresh the maps a little bit. If anyone wants to add me, I'm Ickathu, zot98 (?) and dragmon60.

I would, but it was so hard to quit and I'm worried I would get addicted again.

 

[Ickathu]

I would, but it was so hard to quit and I'm worried I would get addicted again.

Yeah, but you can convince yourself that you're just doing it for the sake of blind. Because that's totally what you'd be thinking about when someone is killing you in lvl 40 wildy... Right...

 

[AustinReed]

I'm not sure if this has already been brought up before, but I've come up with an idea for people who are having trouble coming up with specific journeys.

This has only really been tested on 4BLD by me, but I'd be interested to see it applied to some other things.

The idea is that the first two letters determine the journey you take. On my last 4bld, the first letters were J and G. That image is a Jaguar for me, so I thought of a journey through the Phoenix Zoo. I don't know the zoo that well, but I did go through what I did know.

Let me know if anyone does this or it has been used. It works pretty well for me.


On another note, how do people memorize big cube centres? Do they incorporate it into their journeys? I just memo them like 3bld edges, which is pretty much image pairs.


-Thanks.

 

[Noahaha]

I'm not sure if this has already been brought up before, but I've come up with an idea for people who are having trouble coming up with specific journeys.

This has only really been tested on 4BLD by me, but I'd be interested to see it applied to some other things.

The idea is that the first two letters determine the journey you take. On my last 4bld, the first letters were J and G. That image is a Jaguar for me, so I thought of a journey through the Phoenix Zoo. I don't know the zoo that well, but I did go through what I did know.

Let me know if anyone does this or it has been used. It works pretty well for me.


On another note, how do people memorize big cube centres? Do they incorporate it into their journeys? I just memo them like 3bld edges, which is pretty much image pairs.


-Thanks.

Your first idea seems like it would be great for remembering your first image, but perhaps it would mess you up for the rest.

I memo each set of big cube centers in a room with four locations where each location refers to a different U-layer buffer.

 

[AustinReed]

Your first idea seems like it would be great for remembering your first image, but perhaps it would mess you up for the rest.

I memo each set of big cube centers in a room with four locations where each location refers to a different U-layer buffer.

For my example, the JG image is where the journey starts, right in front of the Jaguar Exhibit. Then you continue from there.

 

[JasonK]

WELL I CERTAINLY KNOW WHERE MY NEXT MULTIBLIND JOURNEYS ARE!

Holy **** WoW map... o_o

HOW DID I NEVER THINK OF THIS BEFORE >.<

 

[Noahaha]

For my example, the JG image is where the journey starts, right in front of the Jaguar Exhibit. Then you continue from there.

I understand, but perhaps you would do better with a route you're more familiar with. It's just a risk you have to look out for.

 

[AustinReed]

I understand, but perhaps you would do better with a route you're more familiar with. It's just a risk you have to look out for.

That's the downside, but I have so many places I'm familiar with, so this just makes it easier to make a decision.

 

[Noahaha]

That's the downside, but I have so many places I'm familiar with, so this just makes it easier to make a decision.

I see. This wouldn't work for me since I have to very carefully plan my routes so that each room/area has exactly 5 loci and I know what order they go in.

 

[AustinReed]

I see. This wouldn't work for me since I have to very carefully plan my routes so that each room/area has exactly 5 loci and I know what order they go in.

How many Journeys do you have ready to use? How often do you use each one?

 

[AlexByard]

I am quite new to blind solving (I use old pochmann for corners) and have only recently found that my memo method for corners seems to frustrate me, i was using the basic tapping method, so for the past couple of hours i have been looking around for a method which i find easy and i can recall very easily, as with the tapping method i find myself having to constantly re-memo 4/5 time... I tried the Roman rooms and many others. But while trying to work out a method of my own i came across a method i find much faster and easier to recall than my previous way. What i do is i imagine parts of my body turning a colour and the only way to solve it is to do that corner of the cube, For example, "Oh **** my left shoulder is turning orange!" I would then proceed to solve the corner that is pointing to my left shoulder with the orientation placed on the orange side hahaha, maybe my way of memorizing the corners may help people

 

[Petro Leum]

Oh my gosh runescape.

You're brilliant.
THAT MAP IS HUGE! And I've played the game so much I can totally imagine myself walking all over the map, all the details (castles, banks, stores). Oh man. Fally and Varrock are HUGE too. I'm serious, that is a genius idea.

I would, but it was so hard to quit and I'm worried I would get addicted again.

Runescape has changed sooooo much... when did you and Ickathu stop playing? if i were you... i wonder if you would still like it. there is also some rwt-by-jagex **** going on, nothing too serious though.
On topic, i think runescape is perfect for journeys or loci-like-rooms, because its based on panels, so in small rooms you could just see special panels (some that have a table or some item on it or something, or you see a table and its split up in 2 panels... you know what i mean?)
I have yet to try this out, but i think this gives runescape a slight advantage over C:SS or WoW. I mean, you can hardly utilise this, since on a large place its impossible to really distinguish and know all the panels, but i imagine the panelness can help for memorising anyway, my name is petro leum ingame, feel free to add me.

 

[Ickathu]

Runescape has changed sooooo much... when did you and Ickathu stop playing? if i were you... i wonder if you would still like it. there is also some rwt-by-jagex **** going on, nothing too serious though.
On topic, i think runescape is perfect for journeys or loci-like-rooms, because its based on panels, so in small rooms you could just see special panels (some that have a table or some item on it or something, or you see a table and its split up in 2 panels... you know what i mean?)
I have yet to try this out, but i think this gives runescape a slight advantage over C:SS or WoW. I mean, you can hardly utilise this, since on a large place its impossible to really distinguish and know all the panels, but i imagine the panelness can help for memorising anyway, my name is petro leum ingame, feel free to add me.

Yeah, I was on it this week some... It's so much weirder now... I first started playing a few years before even the GE came out. I thought that was the dumbest thing I haven't played in almost a year before this week. It's still similar enough though, and everything ist still where it was, just mostly graphics are different. A lot different. But yeah, It's not nearly as good now as it was. I'm really only gonna play so I can memorize the layout of the dungeons and stuff. I've already got the layout of the F2P surface memorized pretty darn accurately. I'm not quite sure what you mean by panels, but I used it the other day for a multi (2/3, I stink) and it worked really well. I did all 3 cubes in just 3 buildings plus the roads between in varrock. If you really wanted too, can you imagine how many 3x3s you could memorize in Varrock alone? You could probably fit 30 or so, for me at least. I can usually get by with 3-4 images per cube, and if they work well together I can do it in 2 sometimes (1 for corners, 1 for edges).