Lubix Fusion?

A bit off topic, but are the Zhanchis out of stock already or are they not in stock yet? I looked at the update on the site and it said they were in stock, or maybe I misread something...

I really hope your wrong (checks orders) Yeah they aren't out of stock. You cant scare me like that. Seriously that would have been at least 2 all nighters to get caught up. Also Im unsure how Donovan made his most recent post because as far as I know he is still asleep.
 
I really hope your wrong (checks orders) Yeah they aren't out of stock. You cant scare me like that. Seriously that would have been at least 2 all nighters to get caught up. Also Im unsure how Donovan made his most recent post because as far as I know he is still asleep.

lol the zombie awakens
 
A bit off topic, but are the Zhanchis out of stock already or are they not in stock yet? I looked at the update on the site and it said they were in stock, or maybe I misread something...


I really hope your wrong (checks orders) Yeah they aren't out of stock. You cant scare me like that. Seriously that would have been at least 2 all nighters to get caught up. Also Im unsure how Donovan made his most recent post because as far as I know he is still asleep.
What? I dont see them :/
 
Yes, but why would he care about losing funds? He isn't in it for money, right?

You've got to be joking. He has to make some money to cover the costs or else he can't live. It's just common sense. If he wants to make some extra money, and people are willing to get "ripped off", as you say, which could be very true, then let them. It's not you getting ripped off.
 
I ordered an ultimate zhanchi, hopefully it will come before Saturday for a comp.
OT: I am really interested in the fusion but I still believe its just a mod.
 
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What? I dont see them :/
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Im unsure how you missed this....

I think the Fusion is going to be a Maru 4x4.
 
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The website problem happens to me too... Just refresh your web browser or restart your computer, etc.

Sometimes people order things from me that I don't have in stock... it's annoying.

Also, if the Fusion is a 3x3 isn't that a problem with copyrights? If it's being manufactured as a 3x3.
 
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The website problem happens to me too... Just refresh your web browser or restart your computer, etc.

Sometimes people order things from me that I don't have in stock... it's annoying.


Also, if the Fusion is a 3x3 isn't
that a problem with copyrights? If it's being manufactured as a 3x3.

Apparently, it's a secondmarket product: meaning a extension to improve a product
 
Wow, in this thread is a lot of wrong sciolism posted... I just have to correct some of it with my knowledge as a professional (take a look at my profile for more information if you have doubts on my trustworthiness or just ask anyone from the german community):

Diff is ment for RC cars that get hot so the oil will work when heated lubix doesnt need that
Heat is contraproductive regarding differential oil for rc cars. So besides the different barrier effects of different viscosities of oils - the barrier effect is what differential oils are actually used for in this case - they are also used to compensate the influence of heat... which is the opposite of what you say regarding diff oils. Also, have you ever heard of synthetic oils? They also don't need heat to "work" (as you say). Your arguments are not applicable.

And their an diffrence between silicone and shock oil! Put silicone in a race care, and hmm we will see who's right? The silicone change of state at 150 celcius, you can try if you want/if you are able. Lubix and chock oil is not the same thing. And the shock oil is just harder to rub away. The silicone he use can be used in shampoo, and if you use an shampoo that as shock oil in it, hmm...
Triple fail: 1) No one was ever talking about automobile or race car dumper oil - talk was about that oil used with RC-Cars. And yes, this is most times pure silicone oil. 2) Most silicone oils change their state at 200°Celcius - not 150°C. 3) Lubix is Polidymethylsiloxane - exactly like a lot of RC shock oils. So yes, you could use shock oil in shampoo. Using silicone oil as Lubix or shock oil is just a different use of silicone oils of different viscosity. And learn about name definition regarding what defines a silicone oil as a shock oil or differential oil (keyword: viscosity).

The samething? The feeling maybe, their an reason because people that put oil as lube. In a way or another the shock oil is in base an oil, right? The cube reatic diffrently after time, with oil, or silicone.
You misinterpret the word Oil. Oil is not only stuff made out of mineral oil. Also silicone liquids can be oils - thus, again: "Lubix is Polidymethylsiloxane - exactly like a lot of RC shock oils" - both are silicone oils.
 
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Wow, in this thread is a lot of wrong sciolism posted... I just have to correct some of it with my knowledge as a professional (take a look at my profile for more information if you have doubts on my trustworthiness or just ask anyone from the german community):


Heat is contraproductive regarding differential oil for rc cars. So besides the different barrier effects of different viscosities of oils - the barrier effect is what differential oils are actually used for in this case - they are also used to compensate the influence of heat... which is the opposite of what you say regarding diff oils. Also, have you ever heard of synthetic oils? They also don't need heat to "work" (as you say). Your arguments are not applicable.


Triple fail: 1) No one was ever talking about automobile or race car dumper oil - talk was about that oil used with RC-Cars. And yes, this is most times pure silicone oil. 2) Most silicone oils change their state at 200°Celcius - not 150°C. 3) Lubix is Polidymethylsiloxane - exactly like a lot of RC shock oils. So yes, you could use shock oil in shampoo. Using silicone oil as Lubix or shock oil is just a different use of silicone oils of different viscosity. And learn about name definition regarding what defines a silicone oil as a shock oil or differential oil (keyword: viscosity).

You misinterpret the word Oil. Oil is not only stuff made out of mineral oil. Also silicone liquids can be oils - thus, again: "Lubix is Polidymethylsiloxane - exactly like a lot of RC shock oils" - both are silicone oils.
Hi, you earned yourself an interwebz point.

And now that tensioner has more than piqued my interests....
 
@eric79
You reinforced my respect for German engineering knowledge.
 
@Eric76, thanks for correcting me, but i asked Donovan, and he said me 150, so hmm? And tell me back that, when somme brand will put diff oil in their shampoo?
 
@Eric76, thanks for correcting me, but i asked Donovan, and he said me 150, so hmm? And tell me back that, when somme brand will put diff oil in their shampoo?

Why is there still this firm myth that Lubix is some unique and magical fluid conjured up by Gandalf himself?
Even if diff/shock-oil isn't the exact same thing, It still does the job just as well.

And asking the "inventor" isn't going to get you any undisputable facts anyway...
 
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@Eric76, thanks for correcting me, but i asked Donovan, and he said me 150, so hmm? And tell me back that, when somme brand will put diff oil in their shampoo?
Actually there was no need to ask Donovan - read his publicly available MSDN and try to understand what it says for yourself. On the other hand, if you already were talking to him, you could also just have asked him about some explanations. Anyway:
1) I said "Most silicone oils" - I didn't say all. Whereas you said "The silicone change of state at 150 celcius" (that is kind of hard to understand but I guess what you said was "Silicones change their state at 150°C") - which as that generalization - is wrong. So what I did was correcting your generalized statement regarding silicones would change their state at 150°C. But even for Lubix in specific this is not true (check the MSDN yourself if you don't want to believe me). It clearly says "which can generate formaldehyde as a byproduct of oxidative thermal decomposition" - that does not mean that this necessarily happens - it just is possible that it could happen starting at 150°C (ever heard of safety factors? read about it if not). You understand that difference? Try it, it is easy. You must - regarding technical things - pay special attention to the exact words and interpret only what they actually say - never "over"interpret them. If you're not sure what the data means, go ask someone who knows about it.
2) And for the next question... (I really have problems understanding you)... you want me to tell you which shampoo has shock oil in it whenever there is one?... I don't catch that hook but instead I try again to give you a better understanding, about what you act as if you already knew everything, just because you asked Donovan... or something like that. Well, actually I don't care if you will get it, but it still might help others: a) I talked about shock oil while you now talk about differential oil. Really: Pay attention to the exact words and don't mix things up - even though it was not that much of a difference in this specific case. b) Funny... or maybe sad, so I only point you - again - to the wording: I said "So yes, you could use shock oil in shampoo." And at this point I again have to suggest that you really should learn the definitions/differences of shock- and differential oil - as well as try to find out if those "names" have any significant meaning regarding the material composition or if they are just "names" (well, I just tell you: they are only names). If you seriously want to discuss that topic (which I unfortunately doubt), you should know about all those things. So although it should be already clear from what you yourself said before and from what my answer to it was, I just roughly copy/paste it and simplify it (a lot) - maby you can understand it a bit better then. So, here you go:

You: Lubix can be used in shampoo
Me: Lubix is Polydimethylsiloxane
Me: A lot of RC shock oils are Polydimethylsiloxane
As a consequence Shock oils can be used in shampoo.


If you still refuse to get it, ask Donovan for an better explanation. In case he really knows about his stuff in detail and did not just find out on accident that some type of silicone oil is a good lubricant which he ever since buys from the manufacturer and is reselling it to you, he should agree in every single point with me.

Ohh... just for the fun of it: Google the ingredients of "Aveeno Shampoo" - you'll be amazed of the possibilty that it could contain shock oil. Or Lubix. Or differentail oil. Or whatever specific polydimethylsiloxane...

Why is there still this firm myth that Lubix is some unique and magical fluid conjured up by Gandalf himself?
Even if diff/shock-oil isn't the exact same thing, It still does the job just as well.
Because there are still some people defending it as a what you described it as. That is why I today posted... because people make up facts with wrong sciolism. In reality Lubix it is just a silicone oil with a special viscosity (which Donovan himself said in one of his first posts in this forum about a year ago). And I guess that is the only thing where those people close there ears and eyes like little babies instead of acquiring some knowledge. Again, it is the viscosity that makes Lubix different. But that's it already - otherwise it had to be in the MSDN.
But wait... aren't there rumors that Donovan has a Pikachu army which makes the cubes for him? Maybe Lubix is just their jizz... I mean... it could be, right? No one (but maybe those who are "defending lubix") has ever seen them... so... anything is possible, isn't it?
anyway: As long as there are people in whose opinion it is worth it, they will buy it. And if Donovan want's too - what he surly does - he is going to sell it to them. That's economy.

And asking the "inventor" isn't going to get you any undisputable facts anyway...
Well, unfortunately the last one of the two discoverers died in 2002 while the other one passed away in 1999 already. So asking them unfortunately is not an option any more ;-). But yes, in most cases I have to agree with that.
 
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