KONY 2012 - Please watch

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It certainly is a tricky issue, I've just read a ton of backlash and backlash to the backlash.
Some people in Uganda are saying they don't like the idea of 'military intervention' others are saying the programs funded by them over there are positive to the region.
There has been arguing about if the level of lobbying is allowable by charity with tax exempt status, and if they are over estimating the size of the problem.
Having read a bit more into it, I don't think it's a scam, and I think their intentions are in the right place.
I haven't donated money, but I may help spread awareness.
I keep coming down on the issue that the ICC does see Kony as a major problem, and that his arrest could only a be positive influence on the region.

EDIT: gawd, I even looked through that boring financial report... I can't see anything dodgy about it.
 
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I watched it this morning because I saw Kony 2012 in comments all over YouTube.I think this could work because this video has gotten over 7 million views in less than 2 days and it will probably have over 50 million soon because it is blowing up like crazy and everybody is sharing it on Faceook,Twitter,etc.This way millions of new people will join this project and make him more famous than anybody in the world.But actually the main goal here is to arrest/kill kim and that is why we need the world's forces to send their soldiers there.I think he already is enough popular so the only goal is to get other's armies there.
 
That70sShowDude said:
Why does it matter if you're sick of seeing it posted?
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Because spreading awarness to me seems pretty stupid. Remember when Bin laden was hiding? What awarness was spread? None. We didn't care much. If it's not in our backyards it's not important. Yea after 9/11 everyone was going crazy about Osama but what happened? People forgot. It's like clothing trends. When a celeb wears a snap back everyone else does it. But as soon as they change their style then everyone else will go with it and forget about the old trend. I do support the movement but I would prefer if it wasn't everywhere I look.
That is just my view. Props to the people in africa actually making a difference and to the people who give large amounts to help fund the people rebuilding and helping the local people.
 
You have half a good argument. But there was no need to spread awareness of Bin Laden, cause everyone knew who he was. Also there was strong political motivation to catch him even 10 years later. While this guy I'd never heard of until today (after the point that you thought it was too prevalent).
 
I would be more skeptical of the movement if the critics weren't using so many logical fallacies (Strawmen, ad hominums, unstated major premises, etc etc) and unsupported claims (have you tried going through the references on the second one).
I can so easily see there being a problem with kony2012, but the opposition just doesn't make sense.
 
Its kinda getting annoying that I'm seeing this everywhere. Not that I don't care but I hate how people think they are making a difference just by advertising this. Yeah lots of people now know this problem but how many are actually doing something (that number probably hasn't changed much). Besides there are bigger problems in the world. There's a reason why this problem has been so unknown till this week. All because of one video political, economic, and social problems are being ignored, for what?? again I haven't seen any positive correlation between the hype KONY has been getting and how the situation is being fixed.
 
Heard someone meantioned it in Socail Studies just what he did not about him himself and we are studing the Hollacasut in Socail Studies at the moment.
 
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Godmil said:
Can you think of any activism movement that you can't say there are bigger problems elsewhere? And should that mean nobody should ever try?
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To answer your question.
The fact that there is more awareness about this is good. However people are doing stupid things like tagging and vandalizing their own cities from all this hype and what is that going to do to help us? Crime has actually been going down in Africa according to a video I watched, things have been getting better there. But why now? Why after a 30 min video are people going crazy? It's all because of the way it is being presented. I'm not trying to say idc but I will lose it if I see another "KONY 2012" on any social media, I think we all know what that person will do after they tweeted or posted. If people really want to help they should donate instead of bandwagoning.
I have not seen the 30 min video. Not a second of it. I do not want to be one of those irrational people I'm seeing everywhere. I know enough I don't need a 30min video made by a biased organization to tell me what I should know.
 
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fazdad said:
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts...is_not_in_uganda_and_other_complicated_things
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Again that's another criticism that centers on strawmen arguments. "The video doesn't say that Kony is no longer in Uganda..... except in the bit where they mention it, and then show a graphical illustration of him leaving" There's two of three of those kind of fallacious arguments in that piece. I started looking around different charaties, and the administrative costs aren't unusual, also I saw many that hadn't been independantly audited. And for a group that one of it's main goals is to raise public awareness, to be criticised for spending a chunk of it's money on advertising... that's an embarrassing argument. Leaving aside the trite 'White Mans Burden' claim that is just thrown out there.

I'm sure there are problems with the Kony2012 campain, I just wish the backlash would try to get to the meat of it, rather than repeating lots of fallacious drivel.
I'm finding myself defending Kony2012 more than I'd like to, just because the cricitism of it is soo bad.

(Oh, and Fazdad that cat line is funny and wise in equal doses :) )

EDIT: actually I needn't have bothered, the first comment below the article effectively shoots down every criticism.
 
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The awareness part is good, don't get me wrong but the organization itself acts like if you donate to them they'll actually do something about it. But in the end what is donating money going to do?Are they going to make another video? Are they going to pay Kony to stop? Are they going to throw money and videos at him physically in attempt to kill him? I mean really what can they do?
 
samchoochiu said:
The fact that there is more awareness about this is good.
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Ok...
samchoochiu said:
However people are doing stupid things like tagging and vandalizing their own cities from all this hype and what is that going to do to help us?
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I refer you to the sentence you wrote just before this one. It's advertising, just like anything else. It gets the word out. The video at the moment only has 40,000,000 views. That's not enough.
samchoochiu said:
Crime has actually been going down in Africa according to a video I watched, things have been getting better there.
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Yeah, due to activism and people helping.
samchoochiu said:
But why now?
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Why the hell not now? Got to do it sometime. Plus, this is explained in the video.
samchoochiu said:
Why after a 30 min video are people going crazy? It's all because of the way it is being presented.
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How is this relevant? So what if the video was edited well and the whole thing had a high production value? If the video was done with a mobile phone and windows movie maker then nobody would look twice. It's called marketing.
samchoochiu said:
I'm not trying to say idc but I will lose it if I see another "KONY 2012" on any social media,
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If you don't like it, ignore it. Not hard.
samchoochiu said:
I think we all know what that person will do after they tweeted or posted.
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That's viral advertising for you. If only 1/1000 of the people who watching the video actually did something, that's still 40,000 people doing something. However...
samchoochiu said:
If people really want to help they should donate instead of bandwagoning.
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...I do agree with this point. I think if you re-tweet it and actually feel like you've helped, you're lying to yourself.
samchoochiu said:
I have not seen the 30 min video. Not a second of it. I do not want to be one of those irrational people I'm seeing everywhere.
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Well maybe you should watch it before speaking out about the organisation.
samchoochiu said:
I know enough
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I'm sure you do.
samchoochiu said:
I don't need a 30min video made by a biased organization to tell me what I should know.
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Everyone is biased to their own point of view. If you disagree, that's fine, but using such a weasel word as biased is fallacious. And they're not telling you "What you should know", they're informing you of a tyrant that is in need of stopping and advertising their organisation to you, so you can possibly help.

You strike me as the kind of person who gets mad at Oxfam adverts.
 
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