Timona
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First time hearing about downsolving, good luck lol
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IsThatA4x4
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W- wait hang on a sec...
Generated By csTimer on 2022-04-26
avg of 12: 10.93
Time List:
1. 10.72 L U2 B2 R U2 F2 U2 B2 U2 R' D2 F L D' L F' U2 R F U2
2. 10.55 F' L U' B2 L' F L2 U' L2 D2 R' B2 U2 R' F2 R B2 D2 R2 U2
3. 11.28 B2 F2 R2 U' R2 D R2 D2 F2 D2 U' L B L2 U2 B' U L2 F
4. 11.57 B' R F2 B' D2 B D L' R2 B2 U2 F' U2 R2 F' D2 F' D2 R'
5. 12.40 F' L' U' L2 B2 L2 B2 D U L2 U B2 U R' F2 U2 B R U2 R'
6. (12.85) R2 U2 R2 D2 R2 F2 L2 D' L2 R2 B' U' L2 F R' D' F' L' B2 F'
7. 10.78 B' R U' R2 B' D B L2 D' B2 U2 R' L' D2 R' F2 D2 B2 R U2
8. 10.10 R2 U2 B2 U2 F D2 L2 U2 L2 U2 B R2 L F2 U' R' U' R2 D U2
9. 11.60 D' R2 D2 B2 U B2 D L2 U2 R2 B R' B R' B2 L U' L D R'
10. 10.17 L' F2 R2 D2 R' F2 L2 D2 F2 R B2 D R' B2 D F D2 U2 B' R
11. (9.67) R2 L2 F L2 B D' B R F2 D' R2 D2 L2 F2 D' B2 U R2 U' L2 R'
12. 10.14 D R' D2 F2 L2 U2 F2 L' B2 F2 D2 R' D F' R' F' R B' U' R
APPARENTLY I got this without even noticing yesterday. First sub-11 ao12 yay!
Generated By csTimer on 2022-04-26
avg of 12: 10.93
Time List:
1. 10.72 L U2 B2 R U2 F2 U2 B2 U2 R' D2 F L D' L F' U2 R F U2
2. 10.55 F' L U' B2 L' F L2 U' L2 D2 R' B2 U2 R' F2 R B2 D2 R2 U2
3. 11.28 B2 F2 R2 U' R2 D R2 D2 F2 D2 U' L B L2 U2 B' U L2 F
4. 11.57 B' R F2 B' D2 B D L' R2 B2 U2 F' U2 R2 F' D2 F' D2 R'
5. 12.40 F' L' U' L2 B2 L2 B2 D U L2 U B2 U R' F2 U2 B R U2 R'
6. (12.85) R2 U2 R2 D2 R2 F2 L2 D' L2 R2 B' U' L2 F R' D' F' L' B2 F'
7. 10.78 B' R U' R2 B' D B L2 D' B2 U2 R' L' D2 R' F2 D2 B2 R U2
8. 10.10 R2 U2 B2 U2 F D2 L2 U2 L2 U2 B R2 L F2 U' R' U' R2 D U2
9. 11.60 D' R2 D2 B2 U B2 D L2 U2 R2 B R' B R' B2 L U' L D R'
10. 10.17 L' F2 R2 D2 R' F2 L2 D2 F2 R B2 D R' B2 D F D2 U2 B' R
11. (9.67) R2 L2 F L2 B D' B R F2 D' R2 D2 L2 F2 D' B2 U R2 U' L2 R'
12. 10.14 D R' D2 F2 L2 U2 F2 L' B2 F2 D2 R' D F' R' F' R B' U' R
APPARENTLY I got this without even noticing yesterday. First sub-11 ao12 yay!
IsThatA4x4
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goidlon
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Hey, I just wanted to point out something I noticed in your solution that probably could have gotten rid of that lock up and made it a faster solve in general,
Your solutions for the X-cross and pair #2 are good but there was something on your 3rd pair that you could have done better, instead of doing y L' U L U' L' U L you could have done R U R' U' F R' F' R, then you would do a y' U' L' U L for your 4th pair. Now for oll you can do U2 M' U M U2 M' U M. Then you have an Rb perm which is a much easier algorithm to complete than a Nb perm.
IsThatA4x4
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I also found that swapping pairs 3 & 4 gives a worse OLL but a Ja which is very consistent. Unfortunately you can't change what happens in the heat of the moment, in an ideal world I would've been able to predict and avoid diag CP.
Also, I generally try to avoid doing hedgeslammers in the F2L solutions for now because I find them a little awkward compared to just rotating (same goes for f/f' R/R'/R2 f/f' to avoid rotating, it's a little awkward)
goidlon
Regular
Cool, I would just recommend constantly working on small things like sledges and wide moves in f2l so that when the time comes you can make amazing use out of any scramble that you see
IsThatA4x4
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Yup, it's all part of the F2L improvement I need to have for sub-10 so gotta keep experimenting!
(Also I am now doing untimed practice for a while-ish now so hopefully when I come back to timing solves again I will have a big improvement spike)
IsThatA4x4
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Oh btw how do you guys fingertrick the M move in OLL 28 (r U R' U' M U R U' R')
I'm doing it with my right pinkie but it can be a little inconsistent.
I'm doing it with my right pinkie but it can be a little inconsistent.
bulkocuber
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Timona
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Right Ring Finger
IsThatA4x4
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I just realised it wasn't right pinkie it was left pinkie I use which is even stranger lol. I'll try some other fingers and see what happens, r' R just wastes a move although it is very consistent.
OreKehStrah
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left ring
IsThatA4x4
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Alright so a little update because you won't be seeing any timed progress for a bit...
I spent a while today trying to force X-cross / cross + 1, choosing between white/yellow cross because I want to be x2y CN. I'm getting better at knowing where the pieces will be, but I'm not able to do it with my eyes closed or under 15 seconds yet, which will probably take a lot of practice.
I spent a while today trying to force X-cross / cross + 1, choosing between white/yellow cross because I want to be x2y CN. I'm getting better at knowing where the pieces will be, but I'm not able to do it with my eyes closed or under 15 seconds yet, which will probably take a lot of practice.
In one of Jperm's videos he said when he was starting to practice predicting first pair or xcross it took him around 1:30 to inspect. He said don't try to do it in 15 seconds, just take however long you would like to inspect. Then try starting to reduce your inspection time until you can do it under 15 seconds.
NigelTheCuber
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someone said this: if Jperm asked you to jump of the bridge would you?
anyway your right
IsThatA4x4
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I just lubed my springs with lunar (my only lube) and it's so much quieter and softer I love it.
On the topic of lube, lunar can be a little fast sometimes, and I am running out, so I have ordered some martian (from scs because no UK cube shop or thecubicle (faster delivery for me) had it in stock) which is a little more controlled and longer lasting.
On the topic of lube, lunar can be a little fast sometimes, and I am running out, so I have ordered some martian (from scs because no UK cube shop or thecubicle (faster delivery for me) had it in stock) which is a little more controlled and longer lasting.
IsThatA4x4
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I have kept on going with the cross + 1 practice, and I have a question:
So, the way I do cross + 1 is finding a corner that goes to the top layer, then tracking the pair. But what do I do if no corners will end up in the top? This has a 1/16 chance of happening I think so it's relatively common.
Do I try and change the cross, which would waste a lot of time as finding out that no corners are in the top layer takes time?
Or do I just go with it, pick a corner and track the pair?
OR do I switch to yellow cross and hope the 1/256 chance that those corners are also in the bottom layer doesn't happen?
So, the way I do cross + 1 is finding a corner that goes to the top layer, then tracking the pair. But what do I do if no corners will end up in the top? This has a 1/16 chance of happening I think so it's relatively common.
Do I try and change the cross, which would waste a lot of time as finding out that no corners are in the top layer takes time?
Or do I just go with it, pick a corner and track the pair?
OR do I switch to yellow cross and hope the 1/256 chance that those corners are also in the bottom layer doesn't happen?
Is your cross + 1 practice predicting first pair after cross or x-cross?
If it is just predicting first pair, then maybe try to predict a corner's orientation in the bottom layer. Then track its corresponding edge. If you main white-crosses, I wouldn't suggest you do that (especially in a comp) because that will waste huge amounts of inspection time, and you might not be able to track the yellow corner and edge unless you want a +2 or DNF.
IsThatA4x4
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Alright, the martian arrived so I cleaned my cube (which btw took a toothbrush and 3 paper towels because there was so much gunk) and put it in and I have to say, this is the best I have ever felt any cube ever.
It's got the buttery smooth GAN feel but it's more stable and controllable, definitely switching to martian.
It's got the buttery smooth GAN feel but it's more stable and controllable, definitely switching to martian.
