How to lube Dayan 4x4/What lube to use?

[freshcuber]

I just got my Dayan 4x4 today and it's nice(compared to my old jank Rubiks brand) and cuts pretty well but is a little rough to turn. It definitely needs some lube but I'm not sure how to do it. Last time I tried to lube a 4x4 I destroyed it. I have Lubix and then some generic silicone spray that's pretty sketchy. I don't really want to invest in new lube just for my 4x4 so will Lubix work? Also I know that lubing the core of a standard 3x3 doesn't do too much but since the Dayan has a double core thing going on is there enough friction in the core to make lubing it a good idea? I don't plan on doing that now since getting Lubix in there would be really hard without dismantling it and I really don't look forward to doing that should the need arise.


Can I just put a dab of Lubix on the edges like with a 3x3 and then work it in?

I feel like I should use at least two drops since there's so much more surface area on a 4x4. Good idea? Over lubrication?

Lube the core: Good idea that's worth the trouble or no?



It's not stickered yet so I'm not real worried about having to work in lube for awhile but what do you guys suggest?



EDIT: My inner layers are easier to turn than my outer layers. Isn't it usually the opposite? Do I need to loosen the tensions? If so, how to I do it on this cube?

 

[The Puzzler]

On a 3x3 you lube the core with Lubix.

 

[freshcuber]

On a 3x3 you lube the core with Lubix.

Yes, but from personal experience it doesn't make the cube noticeably faster and is a waste of Lubix to me. I'm putting together GuHongs for my friends and I didn't lube the core cause I was being a bum and it still is atleast as good, if not better than my modded A-V and the GuHong didn't even have a solve through it.

That is also a very unhelpful contribution to my questions and this thread.

 

[masterofthebass]

dry lube works well imo. Maru lube didn't do anything, and I'm not going to gunk up my 4x4 with lubix for no good reason.

 

[freshcuber]

What do you suggest for a dry lube? Why don't you use Lubix on a 4x4?

 

[The Puzzler]

Yes, but from personal experience it doesn't make the cube noticeably faster and is a waste of Lubix to me. I'm putting together GuHongs for my friends and I didn't lube the core cause I was being a bum and it still is atleast as good, if not better than my modded A-V and the GuHong didn't even have a solve through it.

That is also a very unhelpful contribution to my questions and this thread.

Sorry I was simply wondering why you didn't lube the core. I would suggest CRC for the Dayan 4x4.

 

[freshcuber]

Do you have a Dayan 4x4? Have you used CRC? Or did you use it on another 4x4? I assume I have to dismantle it and spray down the pieces?

 

[The Puzzler]

Yes Yes and no. It works better if you dissasemble it but works also if you just pop a edge and spray it in.

 

[freshcuber]

Alright thanks. What about the turning though? I thought inner layers were usually rougher than outers? I can almost cut more in the double layers than I can in the outers.

 

[The Puzzler]

My inner layers actually have a better feel and cut more.

 

[freshcuber]

So it's a common them with Dayan 4x4s? Hm what about a hybrid then? Or is the turning due to just the new core design.

 

[The Puzzler]

Proablly,Hybrid with other ball cores = pops, no idea.

 

[yockee]

Listen carefully. With the Dayan 4x4, the only way to get it to be GREAT, is to take it apart and lube INSIDE the 2x2 structure. Also, tension the 3 axis screws on the 2x2 core. Then, assemble, and tighten the ball shells around the core, ALL THE WAY. If you do not do this, your inner layers won't reach their potential, and outers will be unstable. Everyone I've told to do this, has had great results.

 

[chikato_tan]

Sooooooooooooooooooo can we use the lubix for lubing the dayan 4 ? And how do we do it ?