How to be sub 20

[Zubon]

Thank you Chris for reposting this. I think it is golden advice for someone who is around my level.

As well as different algs fitting different people's styles, I think this is also true with cubes. I love the A2 and the F2 cubes but I know they are not so popular with many people. Based on your advice, I got the Gray C from C4U but at all tensions, I just don't like it.

 

[Raffael]

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For example I used to use the 17 move Y perm, because it just felt amazingly cool. I now use the 13 move alg because I am faster using it.
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i really think this post should be stickied.

btw: what is this 13 move y-perm?

 

[mande]

btw: what is this 13 move y-perm?

If I'm not wrong, its this one: R2 u R2' U R2 D' R' U' R F2' R' U R

 

[cmhardw]

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For example I used to use the 17 move Y perm, because it just felt amazingly cool. I now use the 13 move alg because I am faster using it.
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i really think this post should be stickied.

btw: what is this 13 move y-perm?

btw: what is this 13 move y-perm?

If I'm not wrong, its this one: R2 u R2' U R2 D' R' U' R F2' R' U R

Oops. I can't count, the Y-perm I use is 14 turns:
R2 U' R' U R U' y' x' L' U' R U' R' U' L U

I'll edit the original post.

Chris

 

[rubiknewbie]

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For example I used to use the 17 move Y perm, because it just felt amazingly cool. I now use the 13 move alg because I am faster using it.
..

i really think this post should be stickied.

btw: what is this 13 move y-perm?

btw: what is this 13 move y-perm?

If I'm not wrong, its this one: R2 u R2' U R2 D' R' U' R F2' R' U R

Oops. I can't count, the Y-perm I use is 14 turns:
R2 U' R' U R U' y' x' L' U' R U' R' U' L U

I'll edit the original post.

Chris

I am going to change to this algorithm! I tried it for 1 day and it is already as good or better than the 17-move Y perm I use.

No point in doing 17-move algorithm if I cannot do it like Dan Knights. This algorithm can be faster with practice. The key thing is controlling the strength and positioning in the last part.

 

[John Stewart]

Thanks Luke

Thanks for the advice Luke.
This should help me a lot.

 

[ribonzz]

The thing is to be fast and calm also concentrated..

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

1) Stop Rushing on F2L
If you're stuck in the low 20's I guarantee that you solve F2L too quickly to look ahead. I'm not saying that it's a possibility I am saying absolutely, 100% for a fact you turn faster than you can look ahead. Please try to realize this is true because it will help you speed up tremendously! This one allows for lookahead and allows you to go faster. I still struggle with the perfect balance for this to this very day. It's paradoxical, I know. But seriously, If you go at 80% speed throughout your solving you will get faster times more often than not than if you go 100% speed. Trust me on this. It is one of the biggest changes I made to my solving that allowed me to go sub-20 on average for the first time.

There isn't a single thing I've ever read that's helped me more with cubing. I've been stuck at 20-22 second averages for what must be 6 months now. I just COULDN'T break that wall, and I refused to learn the OLLs because I knew the problems were in my F2L.

I did two sub 20 averages this afternoon, including my new PB average - 18.73 seconds. That's about 2-3 seconds faster than the average that I found impossible to top just yesterday.

Seriously, all I did was about 30 minutes of Metronome solving (100pm) and then my two averages.

Chris, thank you SO much man, really

 

[CUB3R01]

That is really great advice Chris. Thankyou very much!

 

[cmhardw]

Chris, thank you SO much man, really

Glad it was helpful! I remember, very well, being stuck at that barrier too! Congratulations on your very significantly sub-20 averages, as well! Awesome stuff!

That is really great advice Chris. Thankyou very much!

Again, I'm only happy that it is useful for others to read this. As I said above, I was stuck in the low 20's for some time as well so I definitely know the feeling.

Chris

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

Chris, thank you SO much man, really

Glad it was helpful! I remember, very well, being stuck at that barrier too! Congratulations on your very significantly sub-20 averages, as well! Awesome stuff!

Man, I've had so many sub-20 averages since I read your post. In fact, I've probably had more sub-20 averages in that time than non sub-20 averages.

Chris, again, thank you

 

[vcuber13]

What are good slits for an 18 second average?

I'm about 20 seconds and:

Cross - 3 Seconds
F2L - 10 Seconds
OLL - 3 Seconds
PLL - 4 Seconds
[LL - 7 Seconds]

 

[Truncator]

What are good slits for an 18 second average?

I'm about 20 seconds and:

Cross - 3 Seconds
F2L - 10 Seconds
OLL - 3 Seconds
PLL - 4 Seconds
[LL - 7 Seconds]

PLL should be faster. You can get to three seconds pretty easily if you do time attacks.

 

[vcuber13]

What are good slits for an 18 second average?

I'm about 20 seconds and:

Cross - 3 Seconds
F2L - 10 Seconds
OLL - 3 Seconds
PLL - 4 Seconds
[LL - 7 Seconds]

PLL should be faster. You can get to three seconds pretty easily if you do time attacks.

its not really my execution it takes me about 1.5 to recognize and 2.5 to execute.

 

[Parity]

What are good slits for an 18 second average?

I'm about 20 seconds and:

Cross - 3 Seconds
F2L - 10 Seconds
OLL - 3 Seconds
PLL - 4 Seconds
[LL - 7 Seconds]

PLL should be faster. You can get to three seconds pretty easily if you do time attacks.

its not really my execution it takes me about 1.5 to recognize and 2.5 to execute.

exactly you should be able to execute in 1.5 seconds.

 

[Samania]

Nice guide.. right now im just about getting sub 30.

 

[vcuber13]

What are good slits for an 18 second average?

I'm about 20 seconds and:

Cross - 3 Seconds
F2L - 10 Seconds
OLL - 3 Seconds
PLL - 4 Seconds
[LL - 7 Seconds]

PLL should be faster. You can get to three seconds pretty easily if you do time attacks.

its not really my execution it takes me about 1.5 to recognize and 2.5 to execute.

exactly you should be able to execute in 1.5 seconds.

ok,
I still would like to know what good splits are so I know what to practice

 

[jms_gears1]

What are good slits for an 18 second average?

I'm about 20 seconds and:

Cross - 3 Seconds
F2L - 10 Seconds
OLL - 3 Seconds
PLL - 4 Seconds
[LL - 7 Seconds]

PLL should be faster. You can get to three seconds pretty easily if you do time attacks.

its not really my execution it takes me about 1.5 to recognize and 2.5 to execute.

exactly you should be able to execute in 1.5 seconds.

ok,
I still would like to know what good splits are so I know what to practice

.. Practice your PLL
Your OLL is faster than OLL, that is fail. If you can do OLL in 3 work on doing PLL for 2

 

[miniGOINGS]

.. Practice your PLL
Your OLL is faster than OLL, that is fail. If you can do PLL in 3 work on doing PLL for 2

Typo fix. But yea, PLL is way to slow.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

lol here's my time when i'm all warmed up:

cross-3 seconds
f2l-9 seconds
oll-4 seconds
pll-7 seconds
total time= a sub 20 fail