How I think New cubers should start out ;)

[goatseforever]

Rubik's brand = carpal tunnel for anyone who uses fingertricks. Do not listen to OP new cubers.

 

[macky]

Slow cube promotes look-a-head.

Agreed. There's no reason to buy a Rubik's brand, but I would recommend Alpha-1 over GuHong to complete beginners.

 

[Cool Frog]

Rubik's brand = carpal tunnel for anyone who uses fingertricks. Do not listen to OP new cubers.

What cube you continue using is really a matter of personal preference. Rubik's brand cubes are "Iffy" on if they will be good or not. my cousins rubiks brand isn't half bad I still get about the same times with it.

 

[AndrewRocks]

I purchased my first Rubik's brand cube at "It's Your Move" in the mall and the display models turned so poorly that I assumed they put glue or something in it to discourage people from scrambling it. When I removed it from the package it turned just as poorly as the display models. It was frustrating, hurt my fingers and unfun to learn with so I had to lubricate it.

There is a noticeable, but minimal difference in my latest speedcube and my original lubricated Rubiks cube which in my opinion invalidates the stick-with-Rubiks-until-you're-awesome theory. It is pleasant to solve a quick, corner cutting cube and encouraging to be able to solve a cube in under a minute with only a month of practice.

 

[maggot]

i have to say that practicing with a slower cube can have its benefits and setbacks. the benefit is that you can get smooth lookahead practice, but lookahead is not something that you begin learning until you're really comfortable with all the f2l cases. the big setback is the difference in the turning of a rubiks and a DIY, the ability to be aggressive, (which unlocks many new fingertricky abilities that would be next to impossible on a locky cube) and the ability to turn fast. also, i am older and the sheer force that the rubiks brand takes is a toll on my wrists from long sessions. surely there is some kind of medical warning on long session cubing with rubiks brand cubes for growing children lmao.

 

[Cool Frog]

i have to say that practicing with a slower cube can have its benefits and setbacks. the benefit is that you can get smooth lookahead practice, but lookahead is not something that you begin learning until you're really comfortable with all the f2l cases. the big setback is the difference in the turning of a rubiks and a DIY, the ability to be aggressive, (which unlocks many new fingertricky abilities that would be next to impossible on a locky cube) and the ability to turn fast. also, i am older and the sheer force that the rubiks brand takes is a toll on my wrists from long sessions. surely there is some kind of medical warning on long session cubing with rubiks brand cubes for growing children lmao.

"Warning: Extensive use may cause tissue damage"

 

[cincyaviation]

haha
As for a different method of being learned there is the mainstream CFOP. They have ZBF2L(it orients the edges as you put in the last slot I think). MGLS(You put in unoriented corner + edge into the last slot and then orient the corners in one step usually 2 gen and fast-like) CLL/ELL (This solves the corners and then you solve the edges) and probably a bunch more (like winter variation, Orient edges+ permute corners, and then EPLL), and of course 4LLL.

Another block building method is ZZ where you orient all the edges while you create a line on the D face, This is commonly referred to EO+Line then you block build the F2l using all R U and L moves. The last layer is like above, but there is also another variant where you unorient the last layer then solve it in one step (From what I have read it has less cases, but don't quote me on that). Advantages of this method are that it is 3 gen and was built for speed.

The corner doesn't have to be in the slot and you forgot ELS.
I think you mean orient edges+permute corners then 2GLL.
Where did you hear that?
It's a speedsolving method, it's no more built for speed than any other speedsolving method.

 

[uberCuber]

Where did you hear that?

he could possibly be referring to the ZZ-blah method

 

[cincyaviation]

he could possibly be referring to the ZZ-blah method

I suppose, i was thinking it could be anti ZBLL he was talking about.

 

[AndrewRocks]

Perhaps the intense strain caused by using a crappy cube will develop finger muscles so when you use a speedcube you can TURBOFLICK!!!

 

[Cool Frog]

The corner doesn't have to be in the slot and you forgot ELS.
I think you mean orient edges+permute corners then 2GLL.
Where did you hear that?
It's a speedsolving method, it's no more built for speed than any other speedsolving method.

Thanks (Don't know a lot about MGLS)
Yes
http://cube.crider.co.uk/zz.php?p=ll#blah
Read it somewhere on that site, However I do believe that ZZ was made for speedsolving, It tries to combine low move count, no cube rotations, and no B or F moves.

Perhaps the intense strain caused by using a crappy cube will develop finger muscles so when you use a speedcube you can TURBOFLICK!!!

Or, you just overshoot a bunch.

 

[uberCuber]

Read it somewhere on that site, However I do believe that ZZ was made for speedsolving, It tries to combine low move count, no cube rotations, and no B or F moves.

what he was saying is that most other speedsolving methods are just as much made for speed as ZZ is.

 

[Joël]

I personally think that getting used to a slow cube will also make your mind get used to slower turning. I think Guus Razoux Schultz can testify to this. You should simply start with the kind of cube that you ultimately want to be using, just pick a few of the best cubes available and see what you like most.

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

If you guys hate this thread so much, then why don't you all just ignore it?

Cause we want to express our opinionz.

Ya fixed that for you.

xD

IMO, pcwiz made a much better and detailed guide.

 

[ElectricDoodie]

I personally think that getting used to a slow cube will also make your mind get used to slower turning. I think Guus Razoux Schultz can testify to this. You should simply start with the kind of cube that you ultimately want to be using, just pick a few of the best cubes available and see what you like most.

I believe this, too. When I was averaging 30 seconds, I would occasionally use my storebought, which forced me to slowdown. This helped my looked ahead, and to get into the 25-28 averages.

IMO, pcwiz made a much better and detailed guide.

Yeah, I really liked pcwiz's guide to slow turning. He does it really nicely.

 

[Vinny]

I think for beginner's a Ghost Hand II is a good choice. Sometimes I still use mine. It's pretty locky, but it's faster than a Rubik's brand, but not too fast to where you'll be overshooting like crazy.

Just don't get a C4U DIY. They suck.

 

[Cool Frog]

what he was saying is that most other speedsolving methods are just as much made for speed as ZZ is.

I can understand that, however it seems that ZZ was made to be fingertricky.
Im not saying CFOP or Roux isn't fingertricky but it seems that ZZ was made for being fingertricky and 3gen.
See what im trying to say?

 

[Cool Frog]

what he was saying is that most other speedsolving methods are just as much made for speed as ZZ is.

I can understand that, however it seems that ZZ was made to be fingertricky.
Im not saying CFOP or Roux isn't fingertricky but it seems that ZZ was made for being fingertricky and 3gen.
See what im trying to say?

 

[Kirjava]

ZZ isn't that fingertricky. <RUL> is slow.

Why not do <RU> for a block then z' and <RU> for the next block?