Heated alg subset debate

[Daxton Brumfield]

How many know algorithm subsets are there for 3x3? This is not meant to be a thread to help recommend what 3x3 alg sets to learn, rather I am just curious to see how many 3x3 alg subsets are know of. Ill start off with the most common and well known ones. Feel free to add any subsets that I did not list, and also feel free to add new alg subsets as they are discovered, or remembered.

1) OLL
2) PLL
3) COLL
4) ZBLL
5) VLS
6) OLLCP
7) CMLL
8) Advanced f21
9) BLE
10) CLS

 

[wearephamily1719]

Winter Variation?

 

[Daxton Brumfield]

That is technically part of vls but because a lot of people learn that separate from vls we can count it

Winter Variation?

 

[efattah]

Algorithm subsets for which method? LMCF and Waterman alone have dozens upon dozens of sets that don't overlap other methods. If you add other obscure methods there would be hundreds of sets.

 

[Daxton Brumfield]

I know, that is the point of this thread is to list all subsets that are known regardless of how crazy they are or what method they are from.

 

[Lapse.]

zbls, magic wondeful, tripod ll, lse?, ell, cll, epll, and like 50 other weird ones, look at this pic which shows a last layer "hierarchy" up to 1lll

 

[Daxton Brumfield]

That is pretty neat I haven't seen or heard of a bunch of those subsets before

 

[Lapse.]

That is pretty neat I haven't seen or heard of a bunch of those subsets before

There are a ton of weird random algs...people can just gen their own alg subset for like solving the last cross piece and then oll or some weird thing, its just whether the algs are useful or not, but i like the idea of finding every alg set ever created. But i somehow think this thread is familiar... i think this can be found on the wiki

 

[Christopher Mowla]

You can look at any one of the images in this post (for example). Start counting . . .

 

[Iwannaganx]

I don't know any roux/zz/Petrus ext but surely there is heaps and heaps of alg sets. Blind?

 

[aerocube]

technically everything is a subset of 1-look whole cube

 

[Billabob]

technically everything is a subset of 1-look whole cube

There are 43,252,003,274,489,856,000 states on the cube. This means there are 2^43,252,003,274,489,856,000 subsets of these states.

 

[Daxton Brumfield]

There are 43,252,003,274,489,856,000 states on the cube. This means there are 2^43,252,003,274,489,856,000 subsets of these states.

You guys are both right but I am asking how many subsets are known that I could learn right now if I wanted to. I don't think anybody will be learning one look whole cube subset any time soon lol.

 

[aerocube]

You guys are both right but I am asking how many subsets are known that I could learn right now if I wanted to. I don't think anybody will be learning one look whole cube subset any time soon lol.

the thing is about subsets that there's way too many already genned subsets to count
EPLLs are a subset of PLLs,which is a sub set of ZBLL,which is a subset of 1LLL
plus learning some subsets will make others redundant (i.e CPLLs will be useless if you always use COLL)

 

[Daxton Brumfield]

Good point. I guess this thread is kind of pointless besides the fact that at least I have learned a lot from people that know more than me

the thing is about subsets that there's way too many already genned subsets to count
EPLLs are a subset of PLLs,which is a sub set of ZBLL,which is a subset of 1LLL
plus learning some subsets will make others redundant (i.e CPLLs will be useless if you always use COLL)

 

[GAN 356 X]

Summer variation? is that even a thing?

ZBLS?

 

[Iwannaganx]

Summer variation? is that even a thing?

ZBLS?

Haven't we just said this thread is pointless? There is literally trillions of algs that we haven't discovered. Eventually, we will probably be able to 1look 3x3. Then there will be incredible amounts of alg sets that we havent even thought of yet.

 

[Daxton Brumfield]

Haven't we just said this thread is pointless? There is literally trillions of algs that we haven't discovered. Eventually, we will probably be able to 1look 3x3. Then there will be incredible amounts of alg sets that we havent even thought of yet.

Lol I am gonna rename this thread heated alg subset debate

 

[GAN 356 X]

Lol I am gonna rename this thread heated alg subset debate

Lol indeed

 

[Iwannaganx]

Sorry! That wasn't even what I was going for lol.