"Funs Puzzle" 方是(fangshi) new 3x3

郑重声明：

1.方是魔方3X3本人最早设计于2012年中，并于2012年10月份开模，由于角块装配设计问题和模具的精度欠缺，导致产品第一次失败。搁置两个月，witeden的设计师关先生（HN）提供了一种很好的角块装配方案，也是现在你们看到的这样，修改了一些小问题之后并重新开了模具。在新模具测试阶段我们依然没有对外透露一切关于这款产品的消息，直到大雁盘石的出现，我们发现在角块凸起轨道这一设计上面，这两款魔方有一定的相似，于是为了不让大家误会以为我们抄袭了大雁6盘石，我们才迫不得已提前公布了方是3X3的结构。

2.这款魔方是我和关先生（HN）的原创作品，我从未在任何地方看到过其他人类似的设计并抄袭，也完全没有这个必要。魔方设计有些地方大家容易想到一起，特别是3X3，这可能会引起双方不快，但这也的确是事实，这在MF8的设计版块里也是很常见的事情。而且我们的设计是具体化的，包括每一个零件都用心设计过，在保持性能卓越的前提下针对开模生产进行了精心的优化，而不是给出一个粗糙的框架就宣传所有人都在抄袭自己。
 
I think your design looks like Vcube design espcieally the center pieces.But I have to say the edge pieces is almost the same with panshi.So i think it is possibity that dayan take your design.I have some idea to make dayan cube better.After I know about this problem that dayan mey copy others design ,I think I should think it more about exchange the idea of design.
 
funs puzzle said:
郑重声明：

1.方是魔方3X3本人最早设计于2012年中，并于2012年10月份开模，由于角块装配设计问题和模具的精度欠缺，导致产品第一次失败。搁置两个月，witeden的设计师关先生（HN）提供了一种很好的角块装配方案，也是现在你们看到的这样，修改了一些小问题之后并重新开了模具。在新模具测试阶段我们依然没有对外透露一切关于这款产品的消息，直到大雁盘石的出现，我们发现在角块凸起轨道这一设计上面，这两款魔方有一定的相似，于是为了不让大家误会以为我们抄袭了大雁6盘石，我们才迫不得已提前公布了方是3X3的结构。

2.这款魔方是我和关先生（HN）的原创作品，我从未在任何地方看到过其他人类似的设计并抄袭，也完全没有这个必要。魔方设计有些地方大家容易想到一起，特别是3X3，这可能会引起双方不快，但这也的确是事实，这在MF8的设计版块里也是很常见的事情。而且我们的设计是具体化的，包括每一个零件都用心设计过，在保持性能卓越的前提下针对开模生产进行了精心的优化，而不是给出一个粗糙的框架就宣传所有人都在抄袭自己。
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Google translate as we have nothing better just yet:

Solemnly declare:

1 square Cube 3X3 himself in the first design in 2012, the mold was opened in October 2012, due to the lack of corner block assembly design and precision mold cause the product to fail the first time. Shelved two months, witeden designers Mr. Kwan (HN) provides a good corner block assembly, but also so now you see, modify some small problems and re-open the mold. We still have not disclosed the testing phase of the new mold all the news about this product until the emergence of the geese Panshi, we found the track this design above block diagonal projection Both Cube have a certain similarity, so in order to prevent people misled into thinking that we plagiarism Dayan 6 Panshi before, we have no alternative but to advance publication square 3X 3 structure.

This Rubik's Cube is the original work of Mr. Kwan (HN), I have never seen in any place other human-like design and plagiarism, not necessary. Cube design some places easy to think with special 3X3, which may cause the two sides unhappy, but this is true, it is also a very common thing in the MF8 the design forum where. And our design is embodied, including each part carefully designed, carefully optimized premise of performance for mold production, rather than give a rough framework publicity all plagiarism themselves.
 
funs puzzle said:
郑重声明：

1.方是魔方3X3本人最早设计于2012年中，并于2012年10月份开模，由于角块装配设计问题和模具的精度欠缺，导致产品第一次失败。搁置两个月，witeden的设计师关先生（HN）提供了一种很好的角块装配方案，也是现在你们看到的这样，修改了一些小问题之后并重新开了模具。在新模具测试阶段我们依然没有对外透露一切关于这款产品的消息，直到大雁盘石的出现，我们发现在角块凸起轨道这一设计上面，这两款魔方有一定的相似，于是为了不让大家误会以为我们抄袭了大雁6盘石，我们才迫不得已提前公布了方是3X3的结构。

2.这款魔方是我和关先生（HN）的原创作品，我从未在任何地方看到过其他人类似的设计并抄袭，也完全没有这个必要。魔方设计有些地方大家容易想到一起，特别是3X3，这可能会引起双方不快，但这也的确是事实，这在MF8的设计版块里也是很常见的事情。而且我们的设计是具体化的，包括每一个零件都用心设计过，在保持性能卓越的前提下针对开模生产进行了精心的优化，而不是给出一个粗糙的框架就宣传所有人都在抄袭自己。
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Thanks for clarifying! I think I know what happened now ;)
After sending some emails things are starting to make sense. Don't worry, I won't cause anymore trouble.

Good luck with the cube! It's a fantastic design. I know.

I've got some biomaterials to study. Peace out.
 
funs puzzle said:
郑重声明：

1.方是魔方3X3本人最早设计于2012年中，并于2012年10月份开模，由于角块装配设计问题和模具的精度欠缺，导致产品第一次失败。搁置两个月，witeden的设计师关先生（HN）提供了一种很好的角块装配方案，也是现在你们看到的这样，修改了一些小问题之后并重新开了模具。在新模具测试阶段我们依然没有对外透露一切关于这款产品的消息，直到大雁盘石的出现，我们发现在角块凸起轨道这一设计上面，这两款魔方有一定的相似，于是为了不让大家误会以为我们抄袭了大雁6盘石，我们才迫不得已提前公布了方是3X3的结构。

2.这款魔方是我和关先生（HN）的原创作品，我从未在任何地方看到过其他人类似的设计并抄袭，也完全没有这个必要。魔方设计有些地方大家容易想到一起，特别是3X3，这可能会引起双方不快，但这也的确是事实，这在MF8的设计版块里也是很常见的事情。而且我们的设计是具体化的，包括每一个零件都用心设计过，在保持性能卓越的前提下针对开模生产进行了精心的优化，而不是给出一个粗糙的框架就宣传所有人都在抄袭自己。
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My translation should be easy for English readers while somewhat accurate to the OP, though it was harder to do than I had anticipated. :p

"1. I first began to design this cube in mid 2012 and started to make the molds in October of the same year. My original design proved to be unsuccessful due to my corner design and my project was delayed 2 months. Thankfully Mr.Kwan of Witeden was able to provide a better design for the corner pieces and what you see now is our combined work. We chose to keep our finished product confidential but it was not until we first saw the design of the Dayan VI PanShi and saw how similar it was to the FunShi that we decided to disclose our work." (To reiterate: this is a response to make themselves not look like the one who "knocked-off" the PanShi)

"2. This design of this puzzle is solely from me and Mr. Kwan, we have not seen any design like ours prior so we had no influence. 3x3 puzzles overlap very easily in terms of design making both sides* displeased and that is the inevitable reality. MF8 faces the exact same problem. Witeden is very attentive of its products, making sure that all of its products are original to the best of the company's ability."
*both sides are presumably Mr. Kwan and Mr. Bao
 
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cyoubx said:
Thanks for clarifying! I think I know what happened now ;)
After sending some emails things are starting to make sense. Don't worry, I won't cause anymore trouble.

Good luck with the cube! It's a fantastic design. I know.

I've got some biomaterials to study. Peace out.
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Sorry for this mess !
相信帖中說的Calvin 是我罷, 突然出名了.
Thanks, I was suddenly become famous !
我什麼時候, 把設計圖 給了別人 !
When did I pass the drawing to othes ?!
話說, 那個外國小朋友, 給了我一個3階設計圖及一個3D 樣版. 參考了大雁專利後, 我便回復他說, 他的設計侵犯了大雁3階的專利, 不能生產.
Albert [cyoubx], yes, you had passed me the drawings and 3D shapeways sample.
But, after studied the patent of dayan cubes, your design is like mod dayan cubes, same way to split the edges and corners, also infringe 2 dayan patented features, the circled parts.
另外, 方士魔方的陳生, 他在魔方吧 發帖宣布 方士魔方後, 我才認識他, 更不用說 給他什麼設計圖 才能生產方士魔方 的說法了.
Besides, I knew the designer, Mr. Chan, of Fongshi cube after his new puzzle (fangshi) post on China mf8 forum in Feb 2013.
How your design can be used by him ?!
是誤會罷, 我跟他說清楚. 浪費大家的時間, 不好意思.
Sorry for this mis-understanding. Albert [cyoubx], I hope that I have spoke to you clearly in the emails.
And, sorry to waste us much time.
http://bbs.mf8-china.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=95741&extra=&page=3

cyoubx said:
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And perhaps you shouldn't judge me so quickly. I emailed Calvin after the post. I'm still waiting for his reply.
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Albert, why you made the serious claims before emailed and asked me. You are now hurting the reputation of 3 parties, me (Now Store), Mr. Dayan(Dayan cube) and Mr. Chan (Fanyshi cube).
Please be mature, do only after asking and clarifing next time ! Million thanks.
 
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Honestly.. I would SO much appreciate it if people wrote in English along with the Chinese? I keep having to grab google translate now. If I started to type out in Dutch on this forum folks would complain I am sure.

Please can you all keep in mind we have many languages here but mainly English? Thanks :)

(no I am not a mod, just someone who can't read Chinese lol)

Oh wait.. only NOW I see it IS translated.

>.< Must not fiddle with gigaminx so much before posting. Brain still tied in knot lol Sorry!
 
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Just to clear things up:

I'd like to publicly apologize for making a big deal out of nothing. I caused a lot of trouble and I'm sorry for that.

However, I also want to point out that I NEVER said what I claimed was fact. I simply pointed out vast similarities that in the end were just coincidences.

From my perspective, I don't think it was out of line. But continuing the drama was. So I'm sorry.

I still have questions unanswered but for the sake of keeping things civil, I'm going to forgo them. I'd rather not waste anymore of my time or the time of the people I've affected over a plastic toy so I'll take the shorter end of the stick on this one.


Again, sorry everyone. :)
 
Kattenvriendin said:
Honestly.. I would SO much appreciate it if people wrote in English along with the Chinese? I keep having to grab google translate now. If I started to type out in Dutch on this forum folks would complain I am sure.

Please can you all keep in mind we have many languages here but mainly English? Thanks :)

(no I am not a mod, just someone who can't read Chinese lol)

Oh wait.. only NOW I see it IS translated.

>.< Must not fiddle with gigaminx so much before posting. Brain still tied in knot lol Sorry!
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That's a lot to ask for if the person cannot speak English :/
 
Considering this is an English-language forum, though, almost everyone here does (and the vast majority probably can't speak any given *other* language). It would be more considerate if people would at least run whatever they're saying through an online translator.
 
qqwref said:
Considering this is an English-language forum, though, almost everyone here does (and the vast majority probably can't speak any given *other* language). It would be more considerate if people would at least run whatever they're saying through an online translator.
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Although I am a Chinese,I love view this forum because there are so many things I have never heard in madarian cube forum.And then I can practise my english at the same time :)
 
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