kunparekh18
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Complicated design... can't wait to see reviews on this!
"Funs Puzzle" 方是(fangshi) new 3x3
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You will not be disappointed
Kattenvriendin
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Any clue on when the official version comes out and when we can buy it? 
mark49152
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Why?
Because after all of the videos of prototypes I've seen (Yeah I know it's not the final version) I think this cube is "clunky" as CamCuber said in his video. From myself I can tell it's "blocky" and little "catchy". I don't know what to think about it.
Maybe my opinion will change after seeing some official version reviews by some fast people.
Maybe my opinion will change after seeing some official version reviews by some fast people.
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Reminds me of the new Dayan + MF8 4x4 design.
Lots of room in the middle of the core compared to other 3x3's. Not sure what to expect of that.
Lots of room in the middle of the core compared to other 3x3's. Not sure what to expect of that.
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Well cyoubx, I think you should be flattered that your design is available to the public, and that companies took notice of it.
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IF what I'm claiming is true, it's sort of a backhanded compliment. "Flattered" wouldn't be the word I would use.
^That "IF" is important though.
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You're saying he should be flattered that someone stole his idea and is making money off it without giving him any credit? How could you possibly be so dense as to consider theft a GOOD thing?
Edit: I'd just like to say that I don't actually have enough info to know if the claims are true, but it's still ridiculous to say someone ought to be happy for having his idea stolen.
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Kattenvriendin
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Then do something.
You can complain here, but it will do NOTHING toward your claim unfortunately. You should lay complaint at the address of Panshi and Fangshi. Or even contact Calvin and utter your grievances there, even though he probably cannot do much about it.
I am fairly straight forward about these issues: DO something. It'd be nice to at least get an email back or something.
Also it is entirely possible for two or three people to come out with the same design ideas. There are only so many ways to design a cube after all, and considering it is the same as with clothes; they trend.. many will go towards the same idea, which happened to be very similar to yours.
Not downgrading your design, but it just strikes me that I don't see a "I did something about this" in there.
You can complain here, but it will do NOTHING toward your claim unfortunately. You should lay complaint at the address of Panshi and Fangshi. Or even contact Calvin and utter your grievances there, even though he probably cannot do much about it.
I am fairly straight forward about these issues: DO something. It'd be nice to at least get an email back or something.
Also it is entirely possible for two or three people to come out with the same design ideas. There are only so many ways to design a cube after all, and considering it is the same as with clothes; they trend.. many will go towards the same idea, which happened to be very similar to yours.
Not downgrading your design, but it just strikes me that I don't see a "I did something about this" in there.
cyoubx
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Not downgrading your design, but it just strikes me that I don't see a "I did something about this" in there.
I think you missed the point then. The point was for me to "grieve."
Nothing anyone did was illegal. Morally unjust? Maybe. But nothing more. There's not a whole lot I can do.
By posting here, hopefully some people can know my side of the story because that's all that really matters to me. I don't care for "money or fame." The hope is that there will some people in the community who understand this story and that will be good enough for me.
And perhaps you shouldn't judge me so quickly. I emailed Calvin after the post. I'm still waiting for his reply.
But again, the point of my post wasn't to show that I did something about the situation, it was to show that there IS a situation in the first place. There's a rather important difference between the two.
Kattenvriendin
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Well you DID something.. didn't see it in the first post and I couldn't smell you mailed you know.
Don't get me wrong I am not downing you or anything, I'd be miffed as well. It just struck me as odd as I would have immediately jumped on them big time.
Too bad you cannot prove anything.. but the fact that Calvin sent the files is wrong IMHO. There was no chance of patent infringement as there was never a patent to begin with so no need to send those files on to elsewhere.
Don't get me wrong I am not downing you or anything, I'd be miffed as well. It just struck me as odd as I would have immediately jumped on them big time.
Too bad you cannot prove anything.. but the fact that Calvin sent the files is wrong IMHO. There was no chance of patent infringement as there was never a patent to begin with so no need to send those files on to elsewhere.
mark49152
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I agree with the poster who said you should feel some sense of pride to have elements of your design used (I think they actually said flattered but I wouldn't put it that way). You didn't protect your design and morally right or wrong doesn't count for much in business, especially in China. Even if you did patent your design that wouldn't count for much in China. You've said your piece and the best you can get out of this would be community recognition of the influence you had on potentially a majorly successful cube.
Kattenvriendin
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Wondering.. why did your cube not make it to be produced? Because of that nonsense (in my eyes) claim from Dayan?
Maybe put it up on shapeways and sell from there then?
Maybe put it up on shapeways and sell from there then?
cyoubx
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Wondering.. why did your cube not make it to be produced? Because of that nonsense (in my eyes) claim from Dayan?
Maybe put it up on shapeways and sell from there then?
Exactly because of that. That claim still baffles me. Of ALL things that could have been circled, that made the least sense to me.
And it is on Shapeways
There are two prototypes (that I know of) in existence. Calvin has/had (I'm not sure which) one and I have the other.
mark49152
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Regarding Dayan's infringement claim, the fact they made it doesn't mean it's valid. It's likely just a territorial stake saying that if you want to be in that business, you'll need the legal muscle as well as nice designs. Most product businesses involve some equilibrium of patent claims and licenses between competitors. It's not all about keeping your designs for yourself, it's about building a position of competitive strength.
yockee
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I feel bad I originally suggested for you to try and sell this through Dayan. I figured it could've been like what they did with the Lun Hui. Whoever created it (not Bao) sold it through Dayan and now makes money.
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