Fridrich Method - Which Site Should I Learn From?

[thinkdifferent]

I recently learned how to solve the cube from this website. With this method I currently average under a minute. Under the speedcubing section of cubefreak.net, it states that once you average under a minute, on this method, you should move on to a 4-step last layer.

Macky gives all of the algorithms for the 4-step last layer on this page.

The issue is, I am reluctant to start memorizing these algorithms till I am sure that cubefreak.net is the right place to get my algorithms. I have looked at various sites including:
cutex.info (I think this is by Yu Nakajima)
erikku.110mb.com (Erik Akkersdijk's site)
I want to choose the right algorithms for my 4-step last layer because it will then reduce the amount of PLL and OLL algorithms I have to memorize.

Based on my research most people say you should choose the algorithms that best suit your style. For example Macky, according to his website, uses a lot of double layers, so he chooses algorithms to fit his style. Unfortinately since I am quite new to all of this I haven't developed a style yet, so I don't know where to get my algorithms from.

I'm sorry if this is a very novice question, but out of those three sites which one would you suggest for my algorithms?

I am currently leaning towards cutex.info because I find double layer turns a little tricky, and Erik has a lot of middle layer turns, and I also find those a little hard.

Thanks so much for your help.

 

[Sir E Brum]

Macky has good algs. Except for Anti-Sune I use R U2 R' U' R U' R' (it's just the inverse of the Sune.)

You can always learn new algs for the same cases. Sure it sounds tough now, but as you learn more algs, new ones become easier to learn.

Your "style" is just what feels comfortable to you. Although, I find if you practice things you are not comfortable with (like M and double layer moves) you get better at them. I used to hate M moves, but now they are a lot of fun.

 

[teller]

Badmephisto's 2-Look algorithms are safe and effective.

http://badmephisto.dyndns.org/site/oll.php

 

[bundat]

I personally used those 4-Look LL algs, from starting Fridrich all the way up to sub-48. They're not bad, and you can always replace what you don't want. Then until sub-35 (before I moved to full PLL), I replaced on that list:

- edge OLL for dot [a(1)] with combined c(45) and b(44)
- replaced corner OLL [22] with combined b(44) and c(45)
- replaced corner OLL 23 and 25 with algs from this forum's list

And you can't really be sure what's the best alg "for you" if you're just starting out... you might later find a "faster but awkward" alg to be more comfortable later, you just aren't used to it.

I didn't even use his H-perm (since I found M slices to be awkward), until I saw someone sub-1 H-perm using the M slice, which made me practice it for like 2 days (several hours straight each), and now I've switched my edge perms to M versions because I never exceed 2 seconds with those versions now.

 

[Sir E Brum]

I didn't even use his H-perm (since I found M slices to be awkward), until I saw someone sub-1 H-perm using the M slice, which made me practice it for like 2 days (several hours straight each), and now I've switched my edge perms to M versions because I never exceed 2 seconds with those versions now.

Very true. I used the 17 move 2-gen Z perm for the longest time and then I saw how to do the 9 move slice one. After a day of practicing the 9 move Z perm, I dropped my Z perm time from 2.5s (with 17 move) to a consistent sub 2 (with 9 move). I love slice moves now. And they are even handier (is that a word?) in blindfold solving.

 

[Stefan]

Why would someone called "thinkdifferent" want to learn Fridrich?

 

[thinkdifferent]

Why would someone called "thinkdifferent" want to learn Fridrich?

lol, very true. Maybe I'll try some other methods after the Fridrich Method.

 

[IsaacJ2809]

use youtube its so easy. you can learn it in under a minute

 

[Sir E Brum]

Why would someone called "thinkdifferent" want to learn Fridrich?

lol, very true. Maybe I'll try some other methods after the Fridrich Method.

Honestly, you should try using other methods first. Just get a feel for how they work. It would be quite a shame for you to learn full Fridrich and then find out you have a passion for block building.

 

[thinkdifferent]

Why would someone called "thinkdifferent" want to learn Fridrich?

lol, very true. Maybe I'll try some other methods after the Fridrich Method.

Honestly, you should try using other methods first. Just get a feel for how they work. It would be quite a shame for you to learn full Fridrich and then find out you have a passion for block building.

Would you suggest Lars Petrus method? http://lar5.com/cube/

And can you really get fast with other methods?

 

[Ellis]

And can you really get fast with other methods?

Of course. Just because Fridrich is the most widely used, it doesn't mean it's the only method that can be fast.

 

[bundat]

Sure, there are people who can average sub-15, even sub-13 with sub-10 single solves using Petrus and Roux.

But it's VERY HARD to get good with them.
Like take for example, block-building. You might have a knack for it, but I've heard of people try to learn it for several months and still be slow at it.
Unlike F2L, which has tons of guides out there, both written and video, with specialized techniques like multislotting and the like also having their own guides, and all cases have been isolated such that you can go the alg route if you want everything analyzed for you.

Also, most OLL and PLL cases have been optimized to death. The Opticubes site alone has many different versions, including the optimal, 2-gen RU, Rru, RFU versions, etc. Whereas it's hard to find guides for the last step of Petrus and Roux other than the creator's sites themselves. And even then, the options are still unclear (there's CMLL, CLL, COLL for Roux I think, I'm not sure, and then for Petrus, ZBLL seems like the optimal choice, but practically, there's CLL+ELL, or just plain old cross OLL+PLL, or MGLS...)

Of course, you ARE named "thinkdifferent", so you might see this not as obstacles or being more trouble than it's worth, but rather, as methods which still have room for improvement unlike CFOP. It's your choice, but learning the few algs of 4-Look Fridrich is so easy that it wouldn't hurt either. ;p

 

[a small kitten]

I thought this was about online resources for algs?

Anyway, I find the wiki to be good for PLLs. However, there are a couple of PLLs that are unsuitable for me so I either generate my own or I search random websites. Breandan Vallance has a really nice PLL video on Youtube so I'm borrowing some of his algs like the V and F perm. Just take some time to look around. Erik also has a great video.

 

[kennytheman]

yeah learn it from there i was at were u are and i now avg 35 sec just with larning those

 

[waffle=ijm]

nice bump...

 

[JLarsen]

That's happening a lot lately.....hmmmm......

 

[waffle=ijm]

That's happening a lot lately.....hmmmm......

I say we start banning people who join.
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[/sarcasm]

 

[JLarsen]

That's happening a lot lately.....hmmmm......

I say we start banning people who join.
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[/sarcasm]

Yeah idk what to do....I say we not turn this thread into a "I hate speedsolving.com now" thread though.

 

[benforwork]

I allways use www.cubewhiz.com they've got all the fridrich and other method algorithms that work!

 

[taiga]

Is there any new advice?