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[Werner]

Now i wont spoil the beans but i think someone did some math incorrectly...

Chance of PLL skip * Chance of OLL skip * 4 ( any AUF would suffice )

I get this to be 1 case every 15552 solve and every 3888 solve if auf does not matter.

Cubes=Life if you are using ZB and have a 8 times higher chance of a LL skip then you would have to solve 5832 cubes a week which comes down to about 833 cubes a day for 3 LL skips a week. I might solve 200 cubes a day, and I might get 2 PLL skips a day and one OLL skip. ( I use some modest OLL controll )

Personally i think ive had 4 or 5 LL skips.

 

[4Chan]

Yeppers.

Im surprised why people dont believe me. =/

I quite literally solve for hours at a time. I've had so much spare time since going to college, and only have class for a few hours a day. The rest of my time is spent learning ZBLL and watching japanese cartoons.

Yes, i am not lying. Please believe me.

 

[Lucas Garron]

Now i wont spoil the beans but i think someone did some math incorrectly...

Chance of PLL skip * Chance of OLL skip * 4 ( any AUF would suffice )

I get this to be 1 case every 15552 solve and every 3888 solve if auf does not matter.

You need another AUF in there for the latter reasoning.

 

[ben1996123]

there are 1197 LL cases, and the chance of getting an ll skip (one of 4 cases of last layer, solved, U U' U2) is 1 in 15552.

 

[StachuK1992]

What if one does partial edge control?
Just changing from 0->2 oriented edges.

 

[brunson]

What if one does partial edge control?
Just changing from 0->2 oriented edges.

Gee, I guess that would change the probability, wouldn't it?

Why don't you do the math? Or as I would say to my Calc I recitation group, "This I'm going to leave as an exercise for the student."

 

[Edmund]

My chances of LL skip are much higher than yours.

Even though im using only about 4 subsets of ZBF2L, im getting at least 3 a week.

wth? How many solves do you do a week and would this be the same if you used VHF2L?

 

[StachuK1992]

What if one does partial edge control?
Just changing from 0->2 oriented edges.

Gee, I guess that would change the probability, wouldn't it?

Why don't you do the math? Or as I would say to my Calc I recitation group, "This I'm going to leave as an exercise for the student."

haha...alright. I'll do this after I'm done my Calc and Physics II homework..I really should be getting to that.

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

I've been cubing for about a year and 4 months, and I've never had a LL skip. Not once.

 

[StachuK1992]

I've been cubing for about a year and 4 months, and I've never had a LL skip. Not once.

That makes me a sad panda.

I've had 3, and have been cubing for 2 years. One skip was with ZZ.

Also, I've had ~100 OLL skips, and more PLL skips.

Also, so far ~10 CMLL skips.

 

[PEZenfuego]

I've been cubing for 5 years. I only recently decided to tackle friedrich f2l though. I have gotten one LL skip on beginner method and 1 on friedrich f2l.

 

[Edmund]

I've never had an ll skip and have cubed for about a year and a half. I've been getting lots of PLL skips though this past month for some reason.

 

[Cride5]

Using ZZ for about 8 months, I've had 5 LL skips, and counting ...


EDIT: A ZZ LL-skip (or ZBLL skip) should happen once in about 1944 solves. Using Partial Corner Control it is reduced to 1 in 971 (~0.1%)

EDIT2: There's a similar discussion here. If you're a big fan of LL skips, try this

 

[ben1996123]

I've been cubing for about a year and 4 months, and I've never had a LL skip. Not once.

That makes me a sad panda.

I've had 3, and have been cubing for 2 years. One skip was with ZZ.

Also, I've had ~100 OLL skips, and more PLL skips.

Also, so far ~10 CMLL skips.

What is CMLL?

Oh, and if cubing for 16 months with an enormous grand total of 0 LL skips makes you a sad panda, then I may be able to kill you. I have been cubing for 6 YEARS, and I have never ever had an LL skip... Not one... Zero...

 

[Sa967St]

I've been cubing for 2.5 years and I've had 5 or 6 LL skips. I used to do 300-500+ solves a day, but now I only do 50-100.

What is CMLL?

Corners of the INTERUPTION!: Does not preserve the U-layer edges or the M-ring. END OF INTERUPTION! Last Layer.

 

[Enter]

In my life 3 times oll and pll skip at the same time!
and it was not a record

 

[rob558]

There are 1212 possible ll situations

according to http://speedcubing.com/ page of algorithms