F2L to LL ratio

[pcharles93]

I currently use Fridrich and average 28-ish. I was wondering how long more experienced cubers' F2L takes compared to their LL. Right now, I have 20 second F2L and 8 second last layer, so a 5:2 ratio. Is it similar for you guys or is it completely different?

 

[ExoCorsair]

13:7

If I were you, I'd work on getting those F2L times down.

 

[Lucas Garron]

If I take L9P (CLS + PLL) for LL, about 11:5.

Makes about 2:1.


EDIT:
12 half-apathetic attempts on a not-so-great cube:

Splits:
{8.44, 2.27}, {7.93, 5.45}, {8.95, 5.92}, {12.76, 5.56}, {11.27, 3.78}, {13.63, 6.14}, {11.05, 6.13}, {9.1, 6.57}, {12.78, 3.89}, {10.19, 4.57}, {12.42, 18.29}, {9.99, 4.21}

Ratios:
(3.71806 PLL skip), 1.45505, 1.51182, 2.29496, 2.98148, 2.21987, 1.80261, 1.38508, 3.28535, 2.22976, (0.67906 CLS mistake), 2.37292

Makes 2.15 average.

The middle ten ratios give averages of 10.77 and 5.22

 

[Paiev]

Interestingly enough, I was asking the same thing on IRC last night

Here are my times for a few solves:

15:9
15:8
18:7
18:10
16:8
14:12
16:8
Average: 16:~9

I should probably work on my F2L times a bit too. Slightly (very slightly) OT: What are people's ratios of Cross:F2L?

 

[MiloD]

how about we do LL to whole solve ratio and leave it as a decimal. mine is about 0.3.

 

[Lotsofsloths]

12:4
=
3:1


12:8
=
3:2

 

[Mike Hughey]

I decided to try it using this timer:
http://rubiks.tw/timer/timer.php

Average of 10:
cross: 4.084
F2L (this really means the rest of the F2L): 16.087
OLL: 6.867
PLL: 5.998
Total: 33.008

Ratio F2L to LL is 20.171:12.865.

LL to whole solve ratio is 0.390.

Clearly, I just stink in general, but this seems to indicate I'm particularly bad at the LL. (I always sort of suspected that.) And the worst part is that I know all the OLLs and I still have this problem.

It is true that the weirdness of hitting the spacebar in the middle of the solve messes you up, but this isn't that far off of a normal average for me (and it felt fairly typical), so I doubt it's too inaccurate. I'd like to think it was a little slow for me, though.

 

[Lt-UnReaL]

If by F2L you mean the rest of F2L after the cross, then my ratio is 11:6.5 = 0.6

 

[Mike Hughey]

Sorry if I was unclear - I was just saying that the timer I was using counts the F2L as being the rest of the F2L besides the cross. When I did my calculations after that I rolled the timer's F2L and cross numbers together, since I consider them together to be the F2L.

 

[Ron]

At first I misread the title of this thread.

 

[alexc]

I think I am about 11:6

 

[Dene]

My ratio is about 11:8 for a 19 second solve. I think it's clear where I need work

 

[Lt-UnReaL]

If by F2L you mean the rest of F2L after the cross, then my ratio is 11:6.5 = 0.6

Oops, that was for F2L with cross. >_<
Without cross I am 8.5 : 6.5

 

[AvGalen]

Keyhole Cross + F2L vs 4 look last layer = 15:10
CFOP F2L vs 3.5 look last layer (some edge control) = 19:9

 

[Leviticus]

with cross:

11:6

 

[FU]

F2L to LL
10.5 to 6.5

 

[jonny guitar]

Clearly, I just stink in general, but this seems to indicate I'm particularly bad at the LL. (I always sort of suspected that.) And the worst part is that I know all the OLLs and I still have this problem.

This struck me as funny. 30 seconds and we consider ourselves "stinking" no good...I guess being on this site sets the bar pretty high. I too think the same way so it isn't just you.

 

[popstar_dave]

Here's 2c from someone less experienced. I'm averaging just over 45s, and my F2L averages about 29s. So it's just about a 2:1 ratio of F2L:LL.

I think my main problem is not looking ahead during my F2L. I'd really like to get that 29s down to sub-20s.

Dave

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

Hrm, 8:5...

 

[Sin-H]

8:4 for a 12 seconds solve

basically, it's (~7-9) : (~4-5)