Euro 2012 - Poland

[NSKuber]

Ok. I was just surprised by that fact(and because 2x2 is my main discipline ) 2 rounds is still better then 0, considering I have 1-2 competitions a year.

 

[NathanKearney]

Hello all,

I'm an American and I'll be traveling through Europe this fall, and I'm planning on attending this competition. Some of you may remember me from the 2010 UK Open. I've a few questions that I hope you all can help me answer.

As a solo traveler who speaks not a word of Polish (I do speak a bit of French and German), I really would like to make sure I'm staying at the main hostel with most of the competitors. Do you anticipate running out of rooms? Should I book a bed more or less immediately to ensure a spot?

I'm going to traveling very light, and it won't be feasible to carry all of my cubes. I'll definitely bring my 3x3, but for everything else I'd be fine just borrowing cubes to compete. Any reason I shouldn't follow this plan?

I'm not an experienced traveler, so forgive me if this is a stupid question. Do I need to worry about visas or any problems entering Poland on a US passport? Will I be able to just fly into Wroclaw as a tourist without issue?

I think that's everything. Thanks in advance for your help, looking forward to meeting everyone in October.


EDIT:

Nevermind. I don't meet the qualifications for hardly any of the events. There's really no point in going just to do 3x3. Have fun guys.

 

[Crazycubemom]

@ NathanKearney,

Poland is one of EU Country, so no visa be needed to get enter Poland on a US Passport

 

[blakedacuber]

What's the legal alcoholic consumption age in Poland?

 

[cubernya]

What's the legal alcoholic consumption age in Poland?

18

 

[blakedacuber]

thanks

 

[Kev43]

Concerning non-europeans competitors, will it be like in Euro 2010 ?

If I remember correctly, they were able to compete in all rounds except finals.

 

[TMOY]

wut ? Is it Rowe who's scaring you ?

Of course non-Europeans can compete in the finals, they simply aren't eligible to titles, trophies and prizes. At Euro 2010 Amos Tay qualified for the 3^3 finals, and as a result there were 13 finalists instead of 12.

 

[superti]

At Euro 2010 Amos Tay qualified for the 3^3 finals, and as a result there were 13 finalists instead of 12.

I have a question about it...
for example

at the begining of National or Continental competition, the 3x3 final, are fixed in 12 participants. the 12 qualificated are
1º france
2º italy
3º Peru.
4º chile
5º USA
6º thayland
7º morrocco
8º japan
9º japan
10º china
11º indonesia
12º Canada.

13º spain

¿¿ how many people pass to finals... 12 , 21, 22...30...40....???
i think , that 12 participants pass to finals, no more. And the first three national or continental participantes win the titles.
In this example. the 2 first france or italy, and the third spanish.

 

[Ron]

¿¿ how many people pass to finals... 12 , 21, 22...30...40....???

Of course this is up to the organisers. Preferably communicated before the competition.
For Euro 2012 we do not have many non European competitors (yet), so we could do it the same as we did for Euro 2010. Maybe not for all events.
For German Nationals 2010 we did 'Best 12 Germans and better non-Germans'. For German Nationals 2011 we did 'Best 8 Germans and max. 4 better non-Germans.' In both cases the top 3 Germans got a certificate and top 3 overall non-Germans.
So basically you look at the number and quality of 'foreign' competitors. Then decide which scenario is best.

 

[Stefan]

1) For German Nationals 2010 we did 'Best 12 Germans and better non-Germans'.
2) For German Nationals 2011 we did 'Best 8 Germans and max. 4 better non-Germans.'

1) What if the 12th German is the last place?
2) What if there are more than four non-Germans in the top 12?

Wouldn't that violate rule 9p?

9p) In case of more than one round for an event the best ranked competitors of a round proceed to the next round.
9p1) For each round of an event, at least 25% of the competitors must not proceed to the next round.
9p2) Either the best x competitors proceed to the next round, or all competitors who beat a specific result (announced before the round).

 

[Ron]

1) What if the 12th German is the last place?

That was not possible in that case, because of the quantity and quality of the German and 'foreign' competitors.
If it would have happened, like many Germans would have cancelled their registrations, then we would have changed the announcement.
And if it would still have happened, then would we have to obey WCA regulation 9p1 of course, max 75% would proceed to next round.

2) What if there are more than four non-Germans in the top 12?

That could be a problem indeed.
Technically 9p2 would allow all competitors above the 8th German to proceed to next round.
If it were only 1 or 2 extra competitors, then I would personally accept them as well. (to not violate 9p2).
Another option would be to ask these extra competitors to skip the next round on voluntary basis. (because it was announced like that).
In fact, this happened to me at German Nationals 2008, see Rubik's Cube event here.
It is indeed better to not do the announcement like this.

In general this is caused by the fact that we want open competitions. In 2008 the German Nationals had many good foreign competitors. And in a German Nationals you want Germans in the finals. So we chose "best 8 Germans, max 6 faster foreigners".
If there would be a continental or national championship overwhelmed by 'foreign' faster competitors, I think it is acceptable to ask 'foreign' competitors UPFRONT to forfeit their positions in the finals.

 

[Ron]

Are you all waiting to register or are you not planning to come?
I was expecting more registrations at this time.

 

[jla]

Are you all waiting to register or are you not planning to come?
I was expecting more registrations at this time.

I'm registering next week.

 

[marcobelotti]

I'm coming ! And I'm very happy with that Finally I can meet top cubers

 

[Mollerz]

I reckon a decent amount of people will be waiting until the end of August before deciding whether to go. It's obviously not a bad turnout so far but I think the visas might be the reason people aren't registering immediately. However, the more the merrier obviously!

Also, any chance of a psyche sheet update Tim?

 

[hcfong]

I think visas are actually a reason to register early. It makes much more sense to register first, then apply for your visa. If the visa is denied, you can always unregister and you would have only lost you registration fee. If you apply for a visa and wait until it's granted before registering, the competition might be filled up already and you're stuck with a useless visa.

I think it's just the normal pattern. There's a peak in registrations in the first few days/week after the announcement and then registrations trickle in slowly until there's another peak in the last few weeks.

 

[TMOY]

Are there really that many people who need visas ? Out of the long list of countries which is linked on the Euro website, only Russia and Ukraine, and maybe Serbia, are expected to send more than one of two cubers to Euro if any. It's definitely not the main reason why half of the spots are not filled yet.

 

[pjk]

Are you all waiting to register or are you not planning to come?
I was expecting more registrations at this time.

I'm going to try to make this, but haven't registered since I'm not positive if I can yet.

 

[Tim Reynolds]

Psych sheet's updated.