# Do you have bad solving days? How do you deal with bad times?

#### Speedysolver

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I just counted my plls that i know and yes i have lied but it is because i didnt know how many plls i can so there are:both u perms,H and Z perm;both J Perms ,A perms and F and T perm thats all what i know Oll is fully 2look.

#### Speedysolver

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i done! 15.29 avarage of 100 and one pop was 33 seconds. but i really avaraged a lot of times 12 seconds with 4look last layer (and some plls that i kwow 10 algs)))

#### Speedysolver

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But i just ask you guyes if i am the only out of you who have such bad days

#### Cale S

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*quintuple

I've had several 12.xx or faster solves where I had to use 4LLL, so it's possible to be that fast if you have good F2L

#### Speedysolver

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yep i agree but what is quintuple?

#### YouCubing

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*quintuple

I've had several 12.xx or faster solves where I had to use 4LLL, so it's possible to be that fast if you have good F2L
didn't see the 5th Do you think it's UWR?

#### TheChaiCuber

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Recognition no but TPS maybe
I think he doesn't believe that you are doing 4 algs in 5 seconds (me as well). Your recognition would have to be instant and nuff said about TPS. The reason it's hard to believe is because based on your assumed recognition and TPS if you truly are that fast with 4LLL, then you would be world class well past sub-10 as well? You have to understand that the story is just a bit weird. If you truly are sub-12 with 4lll I tip my hat to you!

Coolio

#### YouCubing

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Ok, did the math. If you're 1.5 times faster than me at both recog and TPS, then you could theoretically avg 5.5 on LL using 4LLL.

#### biscuit

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Ok, did the math. If you're 1.5 times faster than me at both recog and TPS, then you could theoretically avg 5.5 on LL using 4LLL.
Just because you use 4L LL doesn't mean you're doing 4 algs every time. If you do some edge control (even as simple and what insert you use) you can skip yellow cross much of the time.

#### Speedysolver

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I think he doesn't believe that you are doing 4 algs in 5 seconds (me as well). Your recognition would have to be instant and nuff said about TPS. The reason it's hard to believe is because based on your assumed recognition and TPS if you truly are that fast with 4LLL, then you would be world class well past sub-10 as well? You have to understand that the story is just a bit weird. If you truly are sub-12 with 4lll I tip my hat to you!

Coolio
I am not sub 12 its just my record avarage time out five solves and of 12 i did 12.96 but i never said that i am sub 12 i am 12-15 if i get some lucky cases i can avarage 12 second!!! (also i already said that i know 10 algs from pll today already 11 and if i have them at the end is´t will be a pretty good solve) But my question was is it normal that sometimes you cant solve as fast as you are you just have bad days.

#### Speedysolver

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I have 50% chances to get the 10plls that i know in my solves so i get them in my solves so you can say i have done 2lookOLL+PLL but if you say about all algs i ussualy do 4lll because i dont know the rest of the als then i get other times like 14-16 seconds i just wrote my pb avarage 12 seconds and my whole method is 4lll but i know full pll so you can say 50 to 50 that i will have to do 4lll or even 2look oll+Pll

#### FailCuber

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I am not sub 12 its just my record avarage time out five solves and of 12 i did 12.96 but i never said that i am sub 12 i am 12-15 if i get some lucky cases i can avarage 12 second!!! (also i already said that i know 10 algs from pll today already 11 and if i have them at the end is´t will be a pretty good solve) But my question was is it normal that sometimes you cant solve as fast as you are you just have bad days.
You said you 16 hrs ago that you avg like 12 and now you're saying you avg 12-15? Your good times are not what you average.

#### Kudz

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I just learn algs than. Like more than usual.

#### Speedysolver

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ok i understood that

#### zen3gr

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Just because you use 4L LL doesn't mean you're doing 4 algs every time. If you do some edge control (even as simple and what insert you use) you can skip yellow cross much of the time.
How "simple" would that be? I've seen some youtube titles talking about "partial edge control" etc but never have watched them carefully, mainly because Im trying currently to make my F2L as efficient as possible and practice my lookahead. Should I start learning about edge control as well? If yes, could you tell me where to start?

#### Berkmann18

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How "simple" would that be? I've seen some youtube titles talking about "partial edge control" etc but never have watched them carefully, mainly because Im trying currently to make my F2L as efficient as possible and practice my lookahead. Should I start learning about edge control as well? If yes, could you tell me where to start?
Partial edge control is just using sledge/hedge to orient two LL edges (UF and UR) while inserting the pair. Edge control is way better as it leaves you to a 1-3LLL.

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#### ACR85

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I like to deal with bad days with lots of rum!