Calling all “Race to Sub-X” Organizers!

Can we have an option for 5 and mega where you can choose between an ao5 and an ao12? Personally I almost never do mega because an ao12 takes me over half an hour.
 
CyoobietheCuber said:
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Like Mo2, Mo4, Bo2, Bo4?
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I explained it later in the post:

ProStar said:
3BLD - This is a really weird proposition, but when Kit and Andrew were talking about new 3BLD result methods, I really liked the ideas. I especially like this for Race to Sub-X, since it's based on improving your global average. I feel that Bo3 is based a lot on luck and less your average, yet Mo3 or Ao5 is too harsh because it requires so high consistency. So I like MoB2o4: Mean of Best 2 of 4. You do 4 solves, take the best 2 results, and take the mean of those. I know this is weird, but I think it makes it so that your result is based on your average, but doesn't require so good consistency that you have to slow down
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I'd still be fine with something more standard, because it's definitely weird and may confuse people who try it out

CuberStache said:
As for the Ciparo format of editing the original post rather than making a new one, I think I'm slightly against that because the way we have it now shows history better. For example, I've been stuck on sub-38 for megaminx for months now and I'd like that to be recognized, rather than just being under the "graduated" section once I graduate, just like someone who beat their goal on the first three weeks.
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That definitely makes sense, and I'm not necessarily all for the suggestion myself. Some of the current threads are years old, and even if they were dead for a while it's still cool to see such an old thread still running
 
ProStar said:
I explained it later in the post:




I'd still be fine with something more standard, because it's definitely weird and may confuse people who try it out



That definitely makes sense, and I'm not necessarily all for the suggestion myself. Some of the current threads are years old, and even if they were dead for a while it's still cool to see such an old thread still running
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Personally I really like the MoB2o4 idea
 
Active threads:
Race to Sub-X on 2x2: @BenChristman1
Race to Sub-X on 3x3: @Ciparo
Race to Sub-X on 4x4: @fun at the joy
Race to Sub-X on 5x5: @Ordway Persyn
Race to Sub-X on 6x6 + 7x7: @Ordway Persyn
Race to Sub-X on Pyraminx: @Rafaello
Race to Sub-X on Megaminx: @CuberStache
Race to Sub-X on Skewb: @Jupiter
Race to Sub-X on Square-1: @Sub1Hour
Race to Sub-X on 3x3 OH: @PingPongCuber

If you want to take over an inactive thread, you must tell the Board of Directors (explained below).
Inactive threads:
Race to Sub-X on Clock
Race to Sub-X on 3BLD
Race to Sub-X on 3x3 With Feet

If you want to make a new "Race to Sub-X" thread, you must tell the Board of Directors (explained below).
Nonexistent threads:
Race to Sub-X on FMC
Race to Sub-X on 4BLD
Race to Sub-X on 5BLD
Race to Sub-X on 3MBLD
Race to Sub-X on 2-7

I'm not completely sure about this, somebody will have to help me with this one.
Use CStimer by clicking "Input" in the dropdown menu at the top, copy and paste the provided scrambles, do the average, then copy and paste the results into your entry.

Round XX
Goal: Sub-XX
Cube: XX
Method: XX

Ao__ / Mo__ / Bo__: XX.XX (X/3)

Time List:
1. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
2. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
3. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
4. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
5. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
6. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
7. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
8. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
9. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
10. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
11. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
12. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]

Comment: XX
Round ___ Results:

Person 1 - Sub-X, Ao__: ____ (X/3)
Person 2 - Sub-X, Ao__: ____ (X/3)

Round ___ Scrambles:

LIST SCRAMBLES HERE

Round ___ ends on _______________________ (date).
2x2: Ao12
3x3: Ao12
4x4: Ao12
5x5: Ao12
6x6: Ao5 (optional Ao12)
7x7: Ao5 (optional Ao12)
Pyraminx: Ao12
Megaminx: Ao12
Skewb: Ao12
Square-1: Ao12
OH: Ao12
FMC: Mo3
3BLD: MoB2o4
MoB2o4: Mean of Best 2 of 4. You do 4 solves, take the best 2 results, and take the mean of those.
4BLD: Bo3
5BLD: Bo3
3MBLD: Bo3
2-5 Relay: Ao5
2-7 Relay: Mo3
1. You must use the provided scrambles, and you must put your results in the format stated above.
2. If you reach your goal 3 rounds in a row, you graduate from that time.
3a. If you miss your goal for a round, then your goal goes from X/3 to 0/3. The 3 rounds you complete your goal must be consecutive.
3b. If you skip a week (don't participate), then your goal's completions does not reset (e.g. if you were 2/3, skipped a week, then beat your goal next week, then you are at 3/3).
Should we all make a new thread and just edit the original post every week?
What if we create a board of directors of everyone who runs one of the Sub-X threads, and if we want to change any of the official rules, we have to vote on it? Then if someone wants to make a new Sub-X thread they have to propose it to the board and they have to decide whether or not it should be a thing. (For example, they may say no to 12x12 with feet, because they don't think anyone will do it and it will just die.) When the board votes on things it would have to be a certain percent approved (right now, there are 9 [I'm not quite sure, correct me if I'm wrong] people running Race to Sub-X threads, so it could be 6/9) If someone has to step down (like ProStar stepping down from Pyraminx and no one immediately volunteering to take over), then the board can make a post saying that there's no one running pyra anymore and someone could take it over. This would help threads from dying, because there would be an organization to make sure it never dies.

(Edited slightly from @ProStar's post.)

@ProStar can just copy and paste this whole post, except the last sentence "List of 'Race to Sub-X' Threads" spoiler and the whole "Questions for Organizers" spoiler into the original post of this thread if these rules are approved:

www.speedsolving.com

About "Race to Sub-X" Threads (+ List of Active Threads)

(Mods, please don't move this thread) "Race to Sub-X" threads are unofficial competitions held on the forums. The point is for you set a goal to try to beat for a specific puzzle, and if you surpass your goal for three consecutive rounds(a new round is held every week, format is usually Ao12)...
www.speedsolving.com www.speedsolving.com
 
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BenChristman1 said:
Active threads:
Race to Sub-X on 2x2: @BenChristman1
Race to Sub-X on 3x3: @Ciparo
Race to Sub-X on 4x4: @fun at the joy
Race to Sub-X on 5x5: @Ordway Persyn
Race to Sub-X on 6x6 + 7x7: @Ordway Persyn
Race to Sub-X on Megaminx: @CuberStache
Race to Sub-X on Skewb: @Jupiter
Race to Sub-X on Square-1: @Sub1Hour
Race to Sub-X on 3x3 OH: @PingPongCuber

If you want to take over an inactive thread, you must tell the Board of Directors (explained below).
Inactive threads:
Race to Sub-X on Pyraminx
Race to Sub-X on Clock
Race to Sub-X on 3BLD
Race to Sub-X on 3x3 With Feet

If you want to make a new "Race to Sub-X" thread, you must tell the Board of Directors (explained below).
Nonexistent threads:
Race to Sub-X on FMC
Race to Sub-X on 4BLD
Race to Sub-X on 5BLD
Race to Sub-X on 3MBLD
Race to Sub-X on 2-7

I'm not completely sure about this, somebody will have to help me with this one.
Use CStimer by clicking "Input" in the dropdown menu at the top, copy and paste the provided scrambles, do the average, then copy and paste the results into your entry.

Round XX
Goal: Sub-XX
Cube: XX
Method: XX

Ao__ / Mo__ / Bo__: XX.XX (X/3)

Time List:
1. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
2. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
3. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
4. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
5. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
6. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
7. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
8. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
9. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
10. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
11. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]
12. XX.XX - <Mini Comment> [Optional]

Comment: XX
Round ___ Results:

Person 1 - Sub-X, Ao__: ____ (X/3)
Person 2 - Sub-X, Ao__: ____ (X/3)

Round ___ Scrambles:

LIST SCRAMBLES HERE

Round ___ ends on _______________________ (date).
2x2: Ao12
3x3: Ao12
4x4: Ao12
5x5: Ao12
6x6: Ao5
7x7: Ao5
Pyraminx: Ao12
Megaminx: Ao12
Skewb: Ao12
Square-1: Ao12
OH: Ao12
FMC: Mo3
3BLD: MoB2o4
MoB2o4: Mean of Best 2 of 4. You do 4 solves, take the best 2 results, and take the mean of those.
4BLD: Bo3
5BLD: Bo3
3MBLD: Bo3
2-5 Relay: Ao5
2-7 Relay: Mo3
1. You must use the provided scrambles, and you must put your results in the format stated above.
2. If you reach your goal 3 rounds in a row, you graduate from that time.
3a. If you miss your goal for a round, then your goal goes from X/3 to 0/3. The 3 rounds you complete your goal must be consecutive.
3b. If you skip a week (don't participate), then your goal's completions does not reset (e.g. if you were 2/3, skipped a week, then beat your goal next week, then you are at 3/3).
4. Organizers must have new scrambles posted sometime between Sunday and Tuesday (depending on what part of the world you live in).
Should we all make a new thread and just edit the original post every week?
What if we create a board of directors of everyone who runs one of the Sub-X threads, and if we want to change any of the official rules, we have to vote on it? Then if someone wants to make a new Sub-X thread they have to propose it to the board and they have to decide whether or not it should be a thing. (For example, they may say no to 12x12 with feet, because they don't think anyone will do it and it will just die.) When the board votes on things it would have to be a certain percent approved (right now, there are 9 [I'm not quite sure, correct me if I'm wrong] people running Race to Sub-X threads, so it could be 6/9) If someone has to step down (like ProStar stepping down from Pyraminx and no one immediately volunteering to take over), then the board can make a post saying that there's no one running pyra anymore and someone could take it over. This would help threads from dying, because there would be an organization to make sure it never dies.

(Edited slightly from @ProStar's post.)

@ProStar can just copy and paste this whole post, except the last sentence "List of 'Race to Sub-X' Threads" spoiler and the whole "Questions for Organizers" spoiler into the original post of this thread if these rules are approved:

www.speedsolving.com

About "Race to Sub-X" Threads (+ List of Active Threads)

(Mods, please don't move this thread) "Race to Sub-X" threads are unofficial competitions held on the forums. The point is for you set a goal to try to beat for a specific puzzle, and if you surpass your goal for three consecutive rounds(a new round is held every week, format is usually Ao12)...
www.speedsolving.com www.speedsolving.com
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Looks great to me! I'd like to see what others think of the board of directors idea
 
I'll chime in:

When it comes to entry formatting I don't think a strict format is at all needed. All thats needed is your goal, times list and average.

I'd rather keep ao12 Option for 6 and 7, As they are less luck based than Ao5. I will note that Ao5 is an option for 6 and 7 I accept. Also the ao12 in 6 and 7 doesn't have to be in one sitting, as long as there were no timed solves of the same event in between. One option I though of for shorter events Is to do 3 Ao12's and use the middle one as the result. Because the averages are independent, you could do the averages on different days, and if someone just does one of the Ao12's it wold just count as normal (I don't know whether to count the better or worse average if you do 2 of the Averages).

also I don't think having the round posting between sunday and tuesday as a rule is at all necessary. I'm fine for some more consistency of the threads, but I don't think strict coordination between the subs is at all necessary.

I'll probably post again with more suggestions.
 
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